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Squilliam said:
Hisiru said:
Squilliam said:

'EAST FISHKILL - IBM East Fishkill workers were called to an all-hands-on staff meeting Thursday evening where they were told more work is coming their way.
Employees were told work will come to the Systems and Technology Group from Nintendo, Freescale and Sony.
IBM employs more than 9,000 at East Fishkill, Poughkeepsie and Sterling Forest. Managers told employees they did not anticipate hiring additional workers.
IBM officials could not be reached for comment.'

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So does this mean that the next generation games have officially started? Usually you'd hear a couple of years out from release about work being started, especially for companies which are using a third party like IBM.

East Fishkill was the site they developed the new Cell processor from. So pretty much you can believe that both Nintendo and Sony are developing their next generation systems starting now or have already started. This means that the earliest for the next generation will be late 2011 or 2012 depending on what they are actually doing with their systems.

Im sorry if you were hoping the generation would last longer because it looks like you're out of luck.

Perhaps Sony is just developing a system like the PS3 but with low price and Nintendo is just developing Wii HD. This is not a entirely "next generation".

Because they are engaging the same people who made the Cell processor once again. You only need the chip architects if you're developing a new chip and the kind of chips these guys develop are the kind suited to consoles. A new architecure = a new generation, by most definitions anyway.

Oh... I see, looks like I am out of luck.



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Alterego-X said:
*sigh*
This generation started in 2005-2006! Even if it would end next year, it wouldn't be "cut short", it would have ended after a reasonable, average timespan.

I was addressing the people who had dreams of a 8 year console generation.



Tease.

Squilliam said:
NJ5 said:
Mummelmann what do you mean by cut short? When do you think we'll see the new console launches?

It depends on the lead time between development starting and development kits being released to developers and from there how long developers need to finish the first games and the hardware guys to finish the hardware, finally from there a lead time for manufacturing.

Anything from as little as 18 months up to 36 months sound right?

So we're talking 2011-2013 launches... yeah, as Alterego-X said, that isn't really cutting the generation short ;)

 



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Alterego-X said:
*sigh*
This generation started in 2005-2006! Even if it would end next year, it wouldn't be "cut short", it would have ended after a reasonable, average timespan.

If Wii2 would be released in 2010, it would only be 4 years from Wii which is much less than average. I don't think Nintendo has ever released next generation console that guickly. Average timespan between generations have been so far around 6 years.



@NJ: It depends on your perspective on how long the generation would last.

If they are making a Cell based PS4 then the lead time could be as short as 18 months from now, 12 months to design and 4-6months to ramp production. We could see a PS4 at the end of 2011 as a possibility based on this.



Tease.

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So E3 2011 should be an exciting one. Does anyone think MS is gona leave it late, due to Natal?



dolemit3 said:
Finally. MSFT is probably a year ahead of the competition by now though.

Define competition? Nintendo kind of changed the meaning of this word.
ot, i think the chips already done for WiiHD and IBM will be manufacturing it, thats really all this announcement means.

 



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Squilliam said:
JaggedSac said:
So who will MS be working with Squil? Or do you think they have not started the process yet?

I would say they have already started the process and the company they are working with is likely to be AMD for the GPU system, and maybe even the CPU. Now I don't know what the overall details of the system would be, but my guess is that its going to be heavily GPU compute biased to coincide with their development of direct X compute. The current Xbox 360 design is already GPU biased in terms of performance and I would expect that this would be even moreso the case for the generation coming up.

The question of who will make the CPU is a difficult one because they are Microsoft and there are so many different interests mixed up in everything. They have an abundance of programming talent and can litterally use any CPU they want, and they can litterally bring pretty much any CPU architecture into acceptance by supporting it with Windows if they so chose. However my current beliefs here centre around a low power CPU which can be used for embedded and low power handheld devices which can both run their mobile operating system and can scale up and offer a good perf/watt and perf/mm^2. Infact probably my best bet is an entire architecture which can be scaled between a handheld and a home console configuration and essentially kill two birds with one stone.

There was a bit of hubbub about Microsoft considering Intel's Larrabee (or Laramie? forget what it's called) integrated chipset, to serve for both CPU and GPU, which would void the need for them to work with AMD/ATI for a graphics package

 

Sony will probably have the CELL do everything for PS4, because that's what was originally intended anyway, before they chickened out and called on Nvidia to make the RSX relatively late in the development cycle.

 

So Nintendo could potentially be the only one with a non-integrated system next time. Especially since Nintendo's next step is the easiest to make in terms of architecture design, since the 360 is to GameCube like Humans are to Chimps in those terms.



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I wander if Sony is going to dump CELL and go with a new architecture.. or they r going to retain the backward compatibility with CELL and build extend it someway..

It will be stupid if they dump altogether for something new..



sigh....I hope this gen stretches a bit longer like around 2013.