@trashleg AMS has been used since the Parliament's inception (I'm 99% sure of this, but there is niggling 1%).
At what level did you study politics? nb - was it at secondary school, or at college, or what-have-ya?
@trashleg AMS has been used since the Parliament's inception (I'm 99% sure of this, but there is niggling 1%).
At what level did you study politics? nb - was it at secondary school, or at college, or what-have-ya?
SciFiBoy said:
lol, well, thats easy to guess |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(UK)
SamuelRSmith said:
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oic, so i guess my best bet is to either become the leader of a party myself or hope that one changes its views toward mine? feck.
how do you plan to get your views represented, i mean, having read your manifesto, there arent many partys close to that idealogy, atleast not that i know of.
i think party politics is getting old. i know that sounds crazy but it doesnt seem to be doing much good. we need a sort of all for one and one for all --> aimed at making life good for everyone with minimal involvement kinda attitude.
but im tired so ignore me.
| trashleg said: i think party politics is getting old. i know that sounds crazy but it doesnt seem to be doing much good. we need a sort of all for one and one for all --> aimed at making life good for everyone with minimal involvement kinda attitude. but im tired so ignore me. |
depends what you mean by minimal involvment, lol
as for is politics getting old, i think its more that we have an 19th century political system in a 21st century world, it needs modernistaion on almost every front and level.
SciFiBoy said:
oic, so i guess my best bet is to either become the leader of a party myself or hope that one changes its views toward mine? feck. |
Well, there's one thing you have to remember: no matter who you are and no matter what parties you have to choose from, you will never be 100% happy with who's available, and you'll always disagree with some of the policies that the party you vote for supports.
When it comes down to voting, a lot of people I know vote based on with whom they disagree with less, not who they agree with more.
There are more sources of political power than being elected. If you're particularly interested in a specific cause, there are hundreds of pressure groups out there, and they do get heard. I mean, look at the effect that all the green pressure groups are having on Governments around the world, at the moment.
The media is also another place, through use of the media, you can get more people to support your cause, pressuring the Government to change policies.
You can also join Government think tanks, and come up with ideas and proposals for the Government.
There are many more avenues to get involved with politics outside of joining a political party.
SciFiBoy said:
depends what you mean by minimal involvment, lol |
well before WW2 the government was nowhere near as intimately involved in people's lives as it is now. at the time its what was needed, and people appreciated it.. but then they got used to it and it just sort of stuck, i guess.
it does need a complete overhaul. whats scary is that we're the generation who have to do it! scary cos i still feel so young lol 
trashleg said:
well before WW2 the government was nowhere near as intimately involved in people's lives as it is now. at the time its what was needed, and people appreciated it.. but then they got used to it and it just sort of stuck, i guess. it does need a complete overhaul. whats scary is that we're the generation who have to do it! scary cos i still feel so young lol |
hmm, before WW2, i dont know about that
im 20, i hope very much to be part of the generation that overhauls politics, lol, dont know how easy it will be, but thats why im applying to do a politics course in september, my ultimate aim is to get a degree in it. 
SamuelRSmith said:
Well, there's one thing you have to remember: no matter who you are and no matter what parties you have to choose from, you will never be 100% happy with who's available, and you'll always disagree with some of the policies that the party you vote for supports. When it comes down to voting, a lot of people I know vote based on with whom they disagree with less, not who they agree with more. There are more sources of political power than being elected. If you're particularly interested in a specific cause, there are hundreds of pressure groups out there, and they do get heard. I mean, look at the effect that all the green pressure groups are having on Governments around the world, at the moment. The media is also another place, through use of the media, you can get more people to support your cause, pressuring the Government to change policies. You can also join Government think tanks, and come up with ideas and proposals for the Government. There are many more avenues to get involved with politics outside of joining a political party. |
oic, well, ill look into that, hopefully, ill be doing a course on politics in september anyway, so i can learn more there!
SciFiBoy said:
hmm, before WW2, i dont know about that |
very honourable, im 20 too and its funny, i just dont see how knowing how its been done in the past is gonna help us improve the future - i know you're gonna shout at me for that but its not a dig at you learning politics. i thought about going into it.
i think what we need is a bunch of people who have the nation's wellbeing and best interests at heart. people with good intentions and honest souls.
now, where the hell are we gonna fnd a bunch of people like that? 