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Domo-Kun said:
By nobody you mean everyone that isn't a democrat, yeah?

So, what would you do to fix health care, Kaz?

No.  I mean even Democrats.

The bill isn't passing because of Democrats.

As for fixing healthcare...

Hard to say.  Putting in an program that will be even harder to change and make prices baloon isn't going to help.



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Harsh.

Wonder why.



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FYI about government spending on Medicare:

Cost: $325 billion USD as of 2006 (http://useconomy.about.com/od/fy2008budget/p/2008_Mandatory.htm)
Coverage: ~42 million US Citizens (as per http://hhs.gov/news/press/2006pres/20060614.html - 38 million = >90% of medicare recipients).

Average Cost Per Government Enrollment: $7,738/yr (2006)
Average Cost Per Private Enrollment: $4,479 /yr (2007)
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I'd really like to know how Obama's administration thinks that the government can cut costs when their own program costs 72% more than the average private enrollment.

Private average was based off of: http://www.suite101.com/blog/klquan/cost_of_health_insurance_rises



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That's great and all, but I would rather use anything than private insurance.

Private insurance companies are more interested than lining their pockets than helping people.

At least, in my experience.



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Domo-Kun said:
Harsh.

Wonder why.

I've already told you why.

It has no price controls... and will cost the government more then it will bring in in proposed taxes.

 

"Ross says the concerns Blue Dogs have about the current House bill being too expensive and not doing enough to contain health care costs are widespread."

 

Also you are correct and Akuma is wrong that it requires every person to have healthcare or pay a big fine when you need treatment.



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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-healthcare-talks-break-down-in-anger-2009-07-24.html



Domo-Kun said:
That's great and all, but I would rather use anything than private insurance.

Private insurance companies are more interested than lining their pockets than helping people.

At least, in my experience.

If that's the case, then why are they charging almost half as much as the government for healthcare plans? In order to be in it for the money, they have to be better than the next guy. With government run systems, they have no incentive to be better.



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Right, but our system now isn't exactly known for being cheap.

In the long run, the new plan is supposed to cost less than our current system, isn't it?



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Lower than the current $7,700 per citizen on government-run healthcare? Probably.
Lower than the current $4,400 per citizen on private-run healthcare? Very unlikely.



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Domo-Kun said:
Right, but our system now isn't exactly known for being cheap.

In the long run, the new plan is supposed to cost less than our current system, isn't it?

According to Obama yes.

However, like I said... nobody believes him. 

Including the Congressional Budget Office... who he claimed said it did.