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Ah man thats lame!  I was really hoping you could listen while playing games.  I haven't been putting any music on my hard drive just for that reason alone.

If only I could figure out how to stream music to my 360 from my PC, but I just can't figure out how to.



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yo_john117 said:

Ah man thats lame!  I was really hoping you could listen while playing games.  I haven't been putting any music on my hard drive just for that reason alone.

If only I could figure out how to stream music to my 360 from my PC, but I just can't figure out how to.


Dude think about it, how can you be listening to music off of your Live connection whilst a game is in. If a game is loaded then the Live connection is open to the game itself.

What's wrong with everyone. Does noone listen to music without playing a game here. IT's an awesome feature. I have an idea many people here might want to try. Dont actually play a game. Sit down with a beer, turn on Last.FM and relax with your eyes closed. Oh my god good old fashioned music relaxation. Or has everyone forgot thats the real reason we have music.



This seems pretty useless now. Who fires up their 360 to listen to music? I just can't see the point.



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selnor said:


Dude think about it, how can you be listening to music off of your Live connection whilst a game is in. If a game is loaded then the Live connection is open to the game itself.

What's wrong with everyone. Does noone listen to music without playing a game here. IT's an awesome feature. I have an idea many people here might want to try. Dont actually play a game. Sit down with a beer, turn on Last.FM and relax with your eyes closed. Oh my god good old fashioned music relaxation. Or has everyone forgot thats the real reason we have music.

I do listen to music while not gaming. I do it very often. I normally do it in a way that doesn't tie up my TV and 360. Its a funny world I live in though I guess. Maybe not everyone has more than one person in their house that likes to use TVs or video game systems.

Offer it for gaming offline only if the problem really is just the internet connection getting over used. At least then I could get a bit of extra mileage out of this. As is, I just can't imagine a reason I would use it. There are so many better ways to jam out that I cannot ever see a reason for using my 360 for that purpose.



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kowenicki said:
@gnizmo.... so you either fire up your xbox or your pc to listen to Last Fm.... so what you are saying is Last fm is useless... which is clearly isnt.

What I am saying is a program to play music on a 360 and do nothing else is useless. On a computer you can do whatever you want with last.fm in the background. On a 360 you are using a TV to do nothing but listen to music using a program available with better funtionality on a more common device.



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Gnizmo said:
selnor said:
 


Dude think about it, how can you be listening to music off of your Live connection whilst a game is in. If a game is loaded then the Live connection is open to the game itself.

What's wrong with everyone. Does noone listen to music without playing a game here. IT's an awesome feature. I have an idea many people here might want to try. Dont actually play a game. Sit down with a beer, turn on Last.FM and relax with your eyes closed. Oh my god good old fashioned music relaxation. Or has everyone forgot thats the real reason we have music.

I do listen to music while not gaming. I do it very often. I normally do it in a way that doesn't tie up my TV and 360. Its a funny world I live in though I guess. Maybe not everyone has more than one person in their house that likes to use TVs or video game systems.

Offer it for gaming offline only if the problem really is just the internet connection getting over used. At least then I could get a bit of extra mileage out of this. As is, I just can't imagine a reason I would use it. There are so many better ways to jam out that I cannot ever see a reason for using my 360 for that purpose.


Thing is my seperates system is connected to my 360. I would never listen to music on my PC as the sound is so inferior even with the best sound card and speakers for PC on the market. My Arcam Amp (which cost £1200) is so awesome with anything like music or films or games. It's a crime not to lie back in the armchair and rev it up. So Last.FM on the 360 is gonna be perfect. I use my 360 already alot to listen to music. I have so many albums on there. Gods knows how many Ive got now.



kowenicki said:
@selnor

we are agreed.....

I guess some people dont like music for what it is... music. When I listen to music I LISTEN to the music. I rarely really listen to it in the background while doing other stuff.


Yep. We are definately agreed. In fact I dont think I have ever listened to my own music whilst playing a game. For some reason I feel like it detracts from the game. I would never do it in an RPG of any kind. Anything with a story and never a driving game. Thats pretty much all games. Driving I need to here the engine to know exactly when to shift etc. And If I'm singing to Oasis I will probably lose concentration.

My music listening is purely that. :)



selnor said:


Thing is my seperates system is connected to my 360. I would never listen to music on my PC as the sound is so inferior even with the best sound card and speakers for PC on the market. My Arcam Amp (which cost £1200) is so awesome with anything like music or films or games. It's a crime not to lie back in the armchair and rev it up. So Last.FM on the 360 is gonna be perfect. I use my 360 already alot to listen to music. I have so many albums on there. Gods knows how many Ive got now.

Its pretty easy to hook your PC into a decent sound set-up and listen through that. There are even devices designed to wirelessly transmit between your PC and stereo set-up to get the most out of music located on the PC. But beyond that there is a bigger problem. The quality of the songs on last.fm isn't really all that high. You can only get so much benefit given the source material is not the best quality. Yes your sound set-up might be a bazillion times better for CDs, but it is not going to magically change the songs you get from last.fm into something amazing, or even worth being played on a great set-up. In order to get the streaming to work on bad connections the sound quality over all is lowered. So I am not really seeing the benefit of hooking it up to a great sound system.

@koweniki
Same as above. I would reply to you on a more individual basis, but it would be almost line for line the same as you are both using the same argument. Nothing against you guys agreeing like that, but no use in repeating myself either ya know?

There are those out there who will still tout this as a killer ap though. I am not lumping you in with them, or them in with the majority but those kind of idiots do exist. I just can't see this as much of a benefit if it prevents me from utilizing any other feature. This would be really cool as an add-on to the custom sound track feature already offered by the console. The wasted potential is extremely disheartening.



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Gnizmo said:
selnor said:
 


Thing is my seperates system is connected to my 360. I would never listen to music on my PC as the sound is so inferior even with the best sound card and speakers for PC on the market. My Arcam Amp (which cost £1200) is so awesome with anything like music or films or games. It's a crime not to lie back in the armchair and rev it up. So Last.FM on the 360 is gonna be perfect. I use my 360 already alot to listen to music. I have so many albums on there. Gods knows how many Ive got now.

Its pretty easy to hook your PC into a decent sound set-up and listen through that. There are even devices designed to wirelessly transmit between your PC and stereo set-up to get the most out of music located on the PC. But beyond that there is a bigger problem. The quality of the songs on last.fm isn't really all that high. You can only get so much benefit given the source material is not the best quality. Yes your sound set-up might be a bazillion times better for CDs, but it is not going to magically change the songs you get from last.fm into something amazing, or even worth being played on a great set-up. In order to get the streaming to work on bad connections the sound quality over all is lowered. So I am not really seeing the benefit of hooking it up to a great sound system.

@koweniki
Same as above. I would reply to you on a more individual basis, but it would be almost line for line the same as you are both using the same argument. Nothing against you guys agreeing like that, but no use in repeating myself either ya know?

There are those out there who will still tout this as a killer ap though. I am not lumping you in with them, or them in with the majority but those kind of idiots do exist. I just can't see this as much of a benefit if it prevents me from utilizing any other feature. This would be really cool as an add-on to the custom sound track feature already offered by the console. The wasted potential is extremely disheartening.

Oh it certainly isn't a killer app on it's own, but it is something of benefit. Live itself with all it's combination is the killer app really. It's everything rolled together in one box that makes it unique. I dont have to boot up my PC as often as I used to. Which is great, because I hate sitting at a desk. :)



Well, in game music is all I would use LastFM for.
I suppose I could use the XBox/TV to listen to music while I read a book.



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