What exactly is wrong with people looking after their own interests? Yes "MY TIME", bolded underlined and size 120 font if you like. 

You're wrong that someone who values their time so highly would never play video games.  Your mistake is in seeing the word value to mean the cash value of the time as opposed to understanding that it is the freedom of allocation that is highly valued and not just the time itself. 

Every second someone spends working unwillingly and uncompensated on another's behalf is slavery by definition. Without that "selfish" reqiurement of compensation that is exactly what it is, but you wouldn't call it "selfish" to desire not to be a slave.  And compensation is not simply a tangential benefit decided on by another, it is something the person actually wants, requests, and is agreed to before the work is done.  So to the extent that someone gets something they value for their tax dollars this is not slavery, but government corruption, waste, and yes for some even welfare...makes all of us slaves to the system and those who profit from this while others get no compensation for the money that is wasted, embezzled, etc....are made the masters of the slaves who pay those taxes. 

People need to have the proper disdain for taxes to fully appreciate the question of what kind of system we should use.  Specifically they should understand that taxation is inherently a form of national enslavement.  Every person will disagree with how their money is spent in some way.  No matter how we slice it forcing someone to work for something they don't want or even would like to prevent in many cases is slavery.  We can justify it a number of ways by, for instance, saying "Well the will of one man cannot be allowed to subvert the need of the nation." etc... But that is just another way of saying "Well tough shit...then that man will just have to be a slave to the nation."...only we phrase it in our mind in a way that allows us to sleep better.

I know some will point to democracy and say that is really what this goes back to but this ignores the distance between two points.  Specifically the points where any given man is given a vote in the booth and the point at which the policy which spends his money is actually put into effect. No man when he casts his vote has even the feintest illusion that he could control such a fine aspect of the government.  But even so, nobody votes for government waste and nobody votes for government ineffeciency so the problem persists regardless.

I'm sure this type of commentary will be found severe by many. But such is the severe reality of a tax system or really any system where a person's work is put to use for purposes out of their control.  We are told it is a necessary evil (I see alternatives) and given the political climate this is probably true.  But where I diverge from the left the most is that they seem happy with this slave and master based reality to the system...a position that, to me, defies logic.
 

PS - I'm not speaking of simply a symbolic slavery, but literal slavery - to view it any other way is fooling one's self into a false sense of comfort.

Well, if you think that it's right for us (by way of gov't) to inflict more hardship on the poor than on the rich (by way of taxes) ... I'm not sure what to say to that.  Your position as I understand it so far sounds an awful lot like, "Everyone needs to do their fair share, only the poor guy's fair share is harder than the rich guy's fair share."  I suppose you have a different concept of "fair".  Fair enough. 

I don't like it because it's a similar attitude I've seem from Mafoo. That is, that someone's time holds some kind of great importance. If time was of great importance, none of us would ever play videogames. In fact, we'd spend every waking hour working and we wouldn't have much of a need for anything else than a bed to sleep in.

And shame on you for a lot of the things you've said or done on the forum. I won't name them, but you know what they are as much as anyone else.

It's not time.  It's the freedom to spend ones time how they would like.

When I "waste" my time playing videogames it's my choice and there is value in that.  I'm doing something I enjoy for leisure.

If you don't think is important and your own time is important.... think about how you feel when your waiting in line at a long line... and your stuck behind an old lady counting pennies, or writing a check, or something happens at a fast food place that takes longer then it should etc.

Sometimes you'll get absolutely pissed off about that stuff... and that's less then a half hour of your time.

Yes, but the difference between leisure time and work time is important here. If someone takes up your free time, it's not a big deal. You weren't doing anything in that time that was all that important to your life (except possibly retaining your own sanity). If someone was taking time from you and you were going to spend that time working, that's another thing.

Point is, life is short, time isn't that important, and people should just shutup.

Isn't that exactly what's being taken?  Your time working that your paid for? 

Besides... i completely disagree.

Time is infinitly important.  Time is all our lives really are.  Our free time... unless you have an awesome job you enjoy (most don't) is infact all one has to define themselves and to lives ones life.  It's your time to live.  Your free time more or less is your life.]

If you have to work longer because more of your money is taken away... you lose free time that you use in defining your life.

If someone wants to define their life as "plays lots of videogames" is that really wasting ones life? 

Is that actually inherently worse then something else you could be doing with your free time?

For something that is infinitely important, it is squandered to an almost infinite degree. Humans have an infinitely important gift (life), but it won't even matter after you're dead. If you don't believe in an afterlife, there is no real value to your life. Once you're dead, nothing you did in your life will matter. At least not to you. You'll be a corpse in the ground. And if you do believe in an afterlife, you could spend your whole life praying in a chapel and get in all the same. So life is infinitely important while you're alive, but it only lasts so long.

I really don't want to get into a philosophical argument here, but one's life is ultimately unimportant to them in the end.