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TheRealMafoo on 12 July 2009

This won't end well, and is a dumb idea if you ask me.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/12/obama.afghan.killings/index.html

If he does this, he will have to say either Bush did the right thing, and be hated for it, or that we did the wrong thing, and the US be hated for it. There is no good outcome.

The best thing to do, is nothing at this point. It was 7 years ago, and nothing can be done about it today.



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D_Boy on 13 July 2009

Exactly...there is no good outcome..then why bother doing it...



TheRealMafoo on 13 July 2009

Yea, and what bothers me about the media, is we have a major offensive going on in Afghanistan right now (that Obama ordered). Americans are dying everyday fighting this, and no one is really covering it.

Now, if Bush had done this, we would hear about every death. Instead, we get a front page story on Bush about something that happened 7 years ago.



D_Boy on 13 July 2009

It seems like they are sort of stuck in the past...and just can't get over the fact that the things have already happened...and no amount of investigating is going to change that. He should say "Ok..this crap happened...whether it was right or wrong...doesn't matter anymore" The Bush Era is a closed chapter now...he needs to be making his own chapter..not just re-reading the previous ones.



TheRealMafoo on 13 July 2009

I agree.

As long as the people hate Bush and love Obama, that's never going to happen. Media in this county is all tabloid quality junk, so if they can't sensationalize it, they don't report it.

No one right now wants to hear a story that will put Obama in a bad light, but they eat that shit up if it's about Bush.



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Words Of Wisdom on 13 July 2009

Creating or re-affirming the idea that the presidents who come after you will investigate your presidency seems worthwhile. Accountability should be more than just a buzzword.

Still, that's the only possible good outcome I can see from this and it's long-term at that. Pretty much everything in the short-term is likely going to be unpleasant.



megaman79 on 13 July 2009

Its good that you two agree.

Myself, i think they (cheney, bush, yoo, etc) should serve as a warning to yours and other Western democracies that you cannot lie and invade a country expecting too get away with it.



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TheRealMafoo on 13 July 2009
megaman79 said:
Its good that you two agree.

Myself, i think they (cheney, bush, yoo, etc) should serve as a warning to yours and other Western democracies that you cannot lie and invade a country expecting too get away with it.

Umm... we did get away with it :/



im_sneaky on 13 July 2009

We need to have people actually believe there will be consequences for their actions. Its part of the constitution.



 

 

megaman79 on 13 July 2009

As far as i can see it we got at least 30 yrs to wait before you (ur gov.) technically get away with it. Until then the Pol Pot criminal trials should remind you it is certainly a possibility.



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