@Nizut76

That's one of the things that makes the game look really good IMO, it's filled with tons of small, but really great details like this. Not only do the fingers do the actual shifting movement, everything in the wheel is exactly identical to the driving wheel of the Ferrari F1 2007 car.

Well, at least somebody gets it. I really don't get why everybody is fauning over GT5P when it was just a stand in for GT5, and, Forza 3 blows it away. Let's put it this way both Forza 3 and GT5 blow GT5P out of the water, that much is ubundantly clear. Will Forza 3 or GT5P be better? that is the question. How do you measure better? do we talk about physics? Perhaps gameplay, or graphics, maybe even features...between all these categories  ithink both games will be shockingly similar. IF the trailer for GT5 was not CGI (why didn't they show anybody actually playing the game at E3...that's kinda suspicious) then on the graphics front, it will be a bit better, otherwise, it all comes down to tech specs that no real gamer cares about, they care about the overall experiance, and on that front, I think both games will be very closely matched. 

@Ironman

You're right, GT5P was just a showing of what GT5 could be when it's released, it's pretty much what PD did with GT4P as well. Obviously GT5 and Forza will be better than GT5P, they'll both be a full game, worked to exhaustion by crews dedicated in bringing the best game that they both can. You can't measure better, because each person will give you a different answer, I personally think GT is better than Forza, after having tried both, because it gives you a better feeling of the driving per se, but Forza does a great job as well in giving you that same feeling as well, especially if you play it will all the driving assists off, the experience is really good.
For the Trailer of GT5 being CGI or not, PD has the history of being a really leak-free developer, they'll just show you what they want you to see, so I really don't care about the trailers, because I know that they'll deliver, just as they have in the past, so i'll be happy when I finally play the game ;). The same can be said for Forza, if by the time of it's release, my financial capacities allow me to buy the game, I'll definetily do so, because as a racing and a game fan, I just want to be able to play a good game ;).