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@dcIkell everybody Knows the PSP won't come back. It's too far behind and lacks the killer software DS has.

I love my PSP, but let's face it, it's games are very close to what you get when playing a console. So if you don't travel much, it comes down to play a handheld or a console. Not a fair competion. While the DS offers a different experience from consoles. So people buy it and play at home. Off course this is not what happens everywhere, but it shows that the DS has more appeal as a handheld.



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"The reason the PSP will never surpass the DS" : same reason why the PS3 or the 360 will have trouble surpassing the Wii : one is mostly a casual gamer console (DS), the other one is mostly a hardcore gamer console (PSP).

Still, 50 million consoles sold is quite an achievement for Sony.



Another reason, the DS is better ;). imo of course, and many others as well ;).



                           

dcIKeeL said:
Steroid said:
The PSP is the most successful non-Nintendo handheld ever. It think I'm gonna get that Disedia bundle ;)


Nice damage control...perhaps you have a future at the sony disaster, or a tabacco company.

Sony and tabacco companies both have damage control skills at the very top of their job requirements list.

Chilax bro. I have a DS and not a PSP. That doesn't mean that, espesially as of late, PSP has been looking really attractive.

I'm gonna get one just to play FF7 I recently downloaded off of PSN. ;)



And here was I thinking it was because the DS is standing at 106 million already and psp not even 50 million.

Silly me...







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Here's the main reason...

Games...

Using IGN coming soon as a rough estimate of the games to be released

PSP has 8 games coming out between now and Sept 1st, the DS has more then 40... and that's including some games released to both consoles.

Now... a lot of those games won't appeal to me, but they'll appeal to someone.

http://psp.ign.com/index/release.html
http://ds.ign.com/index/release.html



@ Tony 55 mln is not 9 mln and the X360 has nothing on the caliber of Mario or Nintendogs.
The only guns MS has is price and NATAL and they can fail. The room for a price cut is diminishing and NATAL could flop. Last Holiday showed that the gap could be closed very quick.

The two sittuations a very different. Ah, there's also the fact that this Gen is still in it's 3rd year, while the handhelds are already mature systems.



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DS has a lot of crappy games, no surprise here...

Still, if you want REAL games for hardcore gamers, then PSP is definitely the better choice :
- Gran Turismo
- god of war
- FF
- the real next MGS, Peace Walker
- PES (soccer)
- patapon
- loccorocco
- GTA + soon china town wars
...

+ tons more

The people that prefer DS either don't know the PSP or (mostly) they're casual gamers.

Like the people who prefer the Wii actually... Technically, PSP is far above.

With the PSP Go incoming, PSP could reach 100 million lifetime. They will still be behind the DS though, since grandmothers and children don't buy PSP.

With 50 million consoles sold, PSP is already a huge success anyway, especially in Japan.



The PSP sells very well considering its price and piracy issues. The issue is mosty people buy a PSP for the sole purpose of pirating. I have a report that I am finishing in my spare time that uses data from various tracker sites on the internet. I'm now trying to include things such as Usenet but getting data is difficult. For example;

God of war: Chains Of Olympus total sales 1.77m (VGCharz, 2009)
God of war: Chains of Olympus torrent downloads as of March 2009 -- 2,433,821

now why you cannot easily estimate a sales loss based on number of times the torrent was downloaded, a lot of people would of easily bought the game after trying it out and many would not buy it in any case, it's still shockingly high.

In terms of platform sales its the same reason the Wii outsells the HD consoles. Nintendo platforms are no longer about catering to gamers, they're about catering to people in the transition period, or non-gamers. This doesn't mean that there are not good core games on both consoles, because there are, but most core games do not sell well on either platform (Wii and DS)

There are exceptions of course, but generally speaking, no core games sell well on the wii or the ds.

(Brawl is not a core game, Twilight Princess would be the major exception)

The DS sells to millions of people just so they can play brain age, mario and whatever horse games they can get, while the PSP has none of that user base.. if you're buying a psp, you're buying it for A) Pirating old platforms such as snes, gba, gbc, nes, genesis, ps1 etc. B) Playing and purchasing REAL games, or C) a combination of both.

There is no casual appeal to anything that is a sony product, really.

Microsoft and Nintendo have both done significantly better jobs with microsoft being the only company to have a stellar price range.

You may say that the wii is cheaper than the SP3, but the hardware in the wii is no where near the value you get for 250$, not to mention with no greatest hits lineup and most games still in the 50+USD range for new titles, the wii is the most expensive console to own and play REAL games on. Of course, there are millions of people, i'd say around 20million, who own a wii and own nothing but wii sports, wii fit, and maybe a handful of other casual games.

With an original price point of 250$, scaled down to 169CAD the PSP is really selling very well. Sony must be incredibly pleased with its sales, considering its almost as expensive as an XBOX360 and it sells equal or more every week, and usually dominates the Japanese market with the DS.

If the PSPgo is a hit, and sony can deal with piracy, you will see a whole lot more games being developed for the PSP and resulting sales will be impressive. I preordered my PSPgo just for reference, and I have a new psp3000.. the platform is excellent and offers an excellent line up of games, it's just that games don't come so often on the platform.

Sales wise, the DS is untouchable, the sames reason the wii is untouchable. young children and nongamers will blindly purchase these platforms, and its not going to stop any time soon. The worry about these platforms is that the other platforms, 360, ps3, psp are slowly building a large instal base as well, when most of the core gamers continue to purchase core games on these platforms significantly more than on the wii, developers are going to turn to the HD consoles, especially with PS3 dev getting so easy now, along with massive drops in dev kit prices. (and nintendo is a massive pain in the rear with getting dev kit stuff in line).

Madworld would of sold close to 2million copies on the 360 and PS3, for instance.

I think that the DS, along with the wii, are in a land of their own, they are not so much Video Game platforms anymore as they are straight up electronic toys. They are surely still fantastic devices, and do offer a rich gaming experience, I just think it's overshadowed by the other.



Spankey said:
@S.T.A.G.E. not that I disagree with you, but where did you get the gender breakdown from?

The DS breakdown came from Nintendo, more or less. They show roughly a 50/50 break. More male players, but there really isn't a system quite like it in terms of percentages among the genders. I don't even think the Wii matches it either.

As for the PSP one, I'm sure that was just a gut instinct on his part. For me, it's more interesting to see what type of person is buying the PSP, and not necessarily the gender. PSP has healthy enough sales, compare it to other portables that went up against Nintendo and compare it to the juggernaut that is DS, I think it's more than holding its own. Yet game sales don't seem to reflect that. Makes me wonder if people are buying the PSP more for it's multimedia functions, rather than a gaming system.

Or maybe not. In the age of the iPod Nano, and small cell phones, I don't see much need to lug around a PSP to listen to music or even watch movies. Maybe people do buy it to play games, but DS just sells more software along with hardware.