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bardicverse on 09 July 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
bardicverse said:

Ok.

Windows 2000 Home vs Professional

Windows XP Home vs Professional

Windows Vista Ultimate vs all lower versions.

Having been an IT support guy since the 90s, I've seen a lot more frequent problems with the cheaper Windows OS versions than with the top of the line ones. It's a common thought that when you pay for the most expensive version, you're not paying for the features, you're paying for stability.

I have yet to see or hear of a stability difference between XP Home and Pro.  Considering I've been using XP Home since it released, it's pretty interesting to hear someone tell me it's less stable than Pro.

Tell me what frequent problems plague XP Home than are not found on Pro.

The problems have varied, but a common one was corruption of Windows Explorer (not to be confused with IE), also quite a few boot corruption issues - ntdlr.dll, etc. 

Have you been using a homebuilt or a Dell/HP? I've seen more of these issues with HP/Dell systems than people who  made homebuilt computers. Of course, having worked in gov't sectors, most of the computers are prebuilds, so the sampling stack is heavily from prebuilts.



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Words Of Wisdom on 09 July 2009
bardicverse said:

The problems have varied, but a common one was corruption of Windows Explorer (not to be confused with IE), also quite a few boot corruption issues - ntdlr.dll, etc. 

Have you been using a homebuilt or a Dell/HP? I've seen more of these issues with HP/Dell systems than people who  made homebuilt computers. Of course, having worked in gov't sectors, most of the computers are prebuilds, so the sampling stack is heavily from prebuilts.

The box with XP Home is actually from an off-brand computer maker called VPR Matrix.  Still, if you're seeing problems with Dell/HP machines versus homebuilt ones then doesn't it stand to reason that it's something Dell/HP is doing that is causing the problem?  And why is the government sector using XP Home?



bardicverse on 09 July 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
bardicverse said:

The problems have varied, but a common one was corruption of Windows Explorer (not to be confused with IE), also quite a few boot corruption issues - ntdlr.dll, etc. 

Have you been using a homebuilt or a Dell/HP? I've seen more of these issues with HP/Dell systems than people who  made homebuilt computers. Of course, having worked in gov't sectors, most of the computers are prebuilds, so the sampling stack is heavily from prebuilts.

The box with XP Home is actually from an off-brand computer maker called VPR Matrix.  Still, if you're seeing problems with Dell/HP machines versus homebuilt ones then doesn't it stand to reason that it's something Dell/HP is doing that is causing the problem?  And why is the government sector using XP Home?

Back then they shipped home with the prebuilds from Dell. I never understood why either. I wasn't the purchasing person, so it was out of my juristiction. Where Im at now is all Mac OSX systems. I still like PCs better

Getting back on point tho, it could be driver related somehow with Dell/HP systems. Yet, that's a pretty big audience that has either one of those brands. My XP pro has never crapped out on me, and only got bogged down by my own idiotic moves a few times =)



Words Of Wisdom on 09 July 2009
bardicverse said:

Back then they shipped home with the prebuilds from Dell. I never understood why either. I wasn't the purchasing person, so it was out of my juristiction. Where Im at now is all Mac OSX systems. I still like PCs better

Getting back on point tho, it could be driver related somehow with Dell/HP systems. Yet, that's a pretty big audience that has either one of those brands. My XP pro has never crapped out on me, and only got bogged down by my own idiotic moves a few times =)

That's kind of where I was going.  With XP, I've only really seen user error as the cause of problems and I've never seen/heard of errors unique to different versions.  Vista itself is a mess and driver errors causing blue screens and the like were present on all versions.  I haven't had 2000 on a box I own (went from 98 to XP) so my experience with that one is limited to non-home venues.

I don't think you're wrong in saying stripping out features could potentially cause problems, but I don't see enough evidence in your posts or in my experience to support your "Jenga concept."



bardicverse on 09 July 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
bardicverse said:

Back then they shipped home with the prebuilds from Dell. I never understood why either. I wasn't the purchasing person, so it was out of my juristiction. Where Im at now is all Mac OSX systems. I still like PCs better

Getting back on point tho, it could be driver related somehow with Dell/HP systems. Yet, that's a pretty big audience that has either one of those brands. My XP pro has never crapped out on me, and only got bogged down by my own idiotic moves a few times =)

That's kind of where I was going.  With XP, I've only really seen user error as the cause of problems and I've never seen/heard of errors unique to different versions.  Vista itself is a mess and driver errors causing blue screens and the like were present on all versions.  I haven't had 2000 on a box I own (went from 98 to XP) so my experience with that one is limited to non-home venues.

I don't think you're wrong in saying stripping out features could potentially cause problems, but I don't see enough evidence in your posts or in my experience to support your "Jenga concept."

Well, for my rebuttle, I've found Vista Ultimate a lot more stable than the lesser versions. XP may be the only platform since 2000 that I might concede the point, as XP overall was/is just a solid OS. Sure Vista had lots of driver issues, but there were a lot of visible slowdowns in the stripped down versions.

AS W7 is a "stabilized" Vista, I expect to see similar things between the versions of W7 coming out.

 



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a12331 on 09 July 2009
makingmusic476 said:
@superchunk: You can clean install the upgrade pack so long as it knows you already have Windows.

@a12331: I'm planning to upgrade my PC to coincide with the release of 7. And why wouldn't I need to install Vista first before upgrading?

you can do this procedure 

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/68767-clean-install-upgrade-vista.html



a12331 on 09 July 2009
superchunk said:
makingmusic476 said:
@superchunk: You can clean install the upgrade pack so long as it knows you already have Windows.

@a12331: I'm planning to upgrade my PC to coincide with the release of 7. And why wouldn't I need to install Vista first before upgrading?

How? and could I do this with XP Pro?

not from xp to 7, only vista to 7