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Kasz216 on 07 July 2009
Samus Aran said:

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Doesn't the U.S. have a history of supporting dictatorships if we see it as the better option? Nothing new.

Batista, Ngo Dinh Diem, Mobutu,Syngman Rhee,etc

 

Just to name you guys a few...

 

Ps: CIA also killed Ngo Dinh Diem and helped to kill Patrice Lumumba! You swines!

They cut Patrice Lumumba in a lot of pieces and desolved everything in acid. Yeah, that's how sick the US goverment is. In all fairness though, the Belgian goverment helped as well. Let's also not forget how many times John F. Kennedy tried to kill Fidel Castro with assasination attempts. Yeah, the irony John F. Kennedy... THE IRONY!

Let's not speak about the horrible things the US have done in North Korea, Japan, Vietnam and Cuba shall we?

Sorry, got a little bit dragged away. I'm a history freak

To answer your question... It's very simple, the US just does what ever suits them best. They've changed a little bit now, but they probably do everything in secrecy now anyway.

And yet you missed John F Kennedy helping the Bathist in Iraq comit practical genocide on all the communists.

Kennedy had quite the ugly side nobody pays attention to.



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Games4Fun on 07 July 2009

US is pro whatever they think will work best for them.



Samus Aran on 07 July 2009

Kasz216 said:
The Army is more a dictatorship then the president.

Besides the EU, China, Russia, and OAS agree with the US. I gotta think there is a good reason for it.

It's probably called economy...



MrBubbles on 07 July 2009
ManusJustus said:
MrBubbles said:
the honduran constitution says its illegal to try and change that part of the constitution. its in place to help prevent a return to being ruled by dictators.

Just because something is a law or in the Constitution doesnt make it un-democratic to try and change it, especially by democratic means such as a referendum.  What a lot of people dont understand is that the president of Hondurus was expelled for trying to make a referendum for people to vote on.

Do you consider the United States a dictatorship since many of our political offices have no term limits?  Was the United States a dictatorship in 1945 when there was no term limit for presidents?

i think that every country and every situation should be looked at individually.   someone whos a follower of a wannabe dictator and whos friends with a dictator.  a country with a history of dictators and laws in place to prevent their return.   the person wants to then change some of the unchangeable parts of the constitution that are in place to protect the democracy they have.    there is this group of LA leaders that seems to continuously want more and more power.  and even when they are told no by their own people or courts it doesnt stop their ambitions...they seem to just keep trying.

 

i am not from the US, did you want an answer or was it a rhetorical question for people from the US?



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Kasz216 on 07 July 2009
Samus Aran said:

Kasz216 said:
The Army is more a dictatorship then the president.

Besides the EU, China, Russia, and OAS agree with the US. I gotta think there is a good reason for it.

It's probably called economy...

What's that have to do with Honduras.  They don't really have much of interest to anybody. 



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HappySqurriel on 07 July 2009

From what I understand (which may be mistaken) the problem wasn't that Zelaya was trying to order a referendum to change the constitution to allow for a second term as president; the problem was that he was developing close ties with Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro and Daniel Ortega (potentially) to rig any referendum and then any presidential election, and (because of this) the referendum did not have support of Zelaya's party, Honduras' parlement, attorney general or supreme court and they all asked the army to overthrow him.

To put it another way, it wasn't the prospect of a "Free Vote" on changing the constitution that lead to him being exiled it was the fact that anyone who spoke out against him was being found murdered that made everyone nervous.



Samus Aran on 07 July 2009

The fact that other countries agree with US is because of economical reasons. It's best for a country's economy to stay close to a big country with a "good" economy.



Kasz216 on 07 July 2009
Samus Aran said:
The fact that other countries agree with US is because of economical reasons. It's best for a country's economy to stay close to a big country with a "good" economy.

I'm guessing you've never paid attention to resolutions in the security council before.



Samus Aran on 07 July 2009

I'm guessing you don't know how the real world works. My country has gotten a lot of shit from the US economy wise because we have too many Nuclear weapons according to them... Same goes for Europe and genetically made meat that comes from the US.



Kasz216 on 07 July 2009
Samus Aran said:
I'm guessing you don't know how the real world works. My country has gotten a lot of shit from the US economy wise because we have too many Nuclear weapons according to them... Same goes for Europe and genetically made meat that comes from the US.

Belgium?  You mean the Nuclear weapons that are loaned to them BY the US.

You guys don't actually have your own nuclear weapons at all.