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Ok, so I read today on CNN that the disposed leader of Honduras is coming to Washington to speak with Clinton. It seems He has the backing of the US (along with many other countries), and they are trying to pressure Honduras to reinstate him.

From what I hear, he tried to eliminate (or change somehow) presidential voting, so he can stay in office. The Honduras Supreme Court ruled this unconstitutional, and then the Justice department issued a warrant for his arrest.

In this case, government worked. Removing him from office is what you are supposed to do in a case like this. Why on earth are we not supporting the proper actions of a democratic system?



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watch out...lots of chavistas from honduras on this site...they become very aggressive at the slightest mention zelaya was behaving naughty.



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Doesn't the U.S. have a history of supporting dictatorships if we see it as the better option? Nothing new.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Doesn't the U.S. have a history of supporting dictatorships if we see it as the better option? Nothing new.

except zelaya is one of hugo chavezs lackeys.



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Hondurus has a one term limit for presidents. The deposed president of Hondurus wanted to hold an electoral referendum on extending term limits.

How is wanting people to vote for something anti-democratic? Can America be classified as a dictatorship because we have a two term limit for presidents (since 1950s) and unlimited term limits for many political offices?  Please answer, I have trouble understanding people's logic sometimes.



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ManusJustus said:

Hondurus has a one term limit for presidents. The deposed president of Hondurus wanted to hold an electoral referendum on extending term limits.

How is wanting people to vote for something anti-democratic? Can America be classified as a dictatorship because we have a two term limit for presidents (since 1950s) and unlimited term limits for many political offices?  Please answer, I have trouble understanding people's logic sometimes.

i dont know the details tbh, here in the UK though, a Political Party can stay in office as long as people vote them back in, so Labour for instance have been in power since 1997 (12 years so far), during that, the PM remained the same for 10 years, Tony Blair (1997-2007), would that be undemocratic aswell? (i dont classify this country as a democracy anyway, but im curious)



the honduran constitution says its illegal to try and change that part of the constitution. its in place to help prevent a return to being ruled by dictators.



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MrBubbles said:
the honduran constitution says its illegal to try and change that part of the constitution. its in place to help prevent a return to being ruled by dictators.

Just because something is a law or in the Constitution doesnt make it un-democratic to try and change it, especially by democratic means such as a referendum.  What a lot of people dont understand is that the president of Hondurus was expelled for trying to make a referendum for people to vote on.

Do you consider the United States a dictatorship since many of our political offices have no term limits?  Was the United States a dictatorship in 1945 when there was no term limit for presidents?



 

MontanaHatchet said:
Doesn't the U.S. have a history of supporting dictatorships if we see it as the better option? Nothing new.

Batista, Ngo Dinh Diem, Mobutu,Syngman Rhee,etc

 

Just to name you guys a few...

 

Ps: CIA also killed Ngo Dinh Diem and helped to kill Patrice Lumumba! You swines!

They cut Patrice Lumumba in a lot of pieces and desolved everything in acid. Yeah, that's how sick the US goverment is. In all fairness though, the Belgian goverment helped as well. Let's also not forget how many times John F. Kennedy tried to kill Fidel Castro with assasination attempts. Yeah, the irony John F. Kennedy... THE IRONY!

Let's not speak about the horrible things the US have done in North Korea, Japan, Vietnam and Cuba shall we?

Sorry, got a little bit dragged away. I'm a history freak

To answer your question... It's very simple, the US just does what ever suits them best. They've changed a little bit now, but they probably do everything in secrecy now anyway.



The Army is more a dictatorship then the president.

Besides the EU, China, Russia, and OAS agree with the US. I gotta think there is a good reason for it.