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I'm still waiting for nuclear winter to cancel it out.



Cactus said:

I'm pretty sure that pollutants are the main contributer to global warming.

I am pretty sure the massive ball of fire in the sky is the main contributer to global warming.



TheRealMafoo said:
Cactus said:

I'm pretty sure that pollutants are the main contributer to global warming.

I am pretty sure the massive ball of fire in the sky is the main contributer to global warming.

Ooh, nice response. Now try responding to the second sentence of my post that you seem to have left out.

 

Better yet, give me a valid argument against this.

"...there has never been such an accelerated warming period as what we're experiencing now..."



Cactus said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Cactus said:

I'm pretty sure that pollutants are the main contributer to global warming.

I am pretty sure the massive ball of fire in the sky is the main contributer to global warming.

Ooh, nice response. Now try responding to the second sentence of my post that you seem to have left out.

 

Better yet, give me a valid argument against this.

"...there has never been such an accelerated warming period as what we're experiencing now..."

"The inconvenient truth is that the earth's temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html

Not only that, while the globe has gotten more radical weather and warmer over the last 15-20 years, so has Mars. How has Mar's climate been effected by CO2 on earth?

 



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TheRealMafoo said:
Cactus said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Cactus said:

I'm pretty sure that pollutants are the main contributer to global warming.

I am pretty sure the massive ball of fire in the sky is the main contributer to global warming.

Ooh, nice response. Now try responding to the second sentence of my post that you seem to have left out.

 

Better yet, give me a valid argument against this.

"...there has never been such an accelerated warming period as what we're experiencing now..."

"The inconvenient truth is that the earth's temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html

Not only that, while the globe has gotten more radical weather and warmer over the last 15-20 years, so has Mars. How has Mar's climate been effected by CO2 on earth?

 

That's like arguing that because you had one month with no rain that it is absolutely impossible for it to be the rainest year on record.  You are looking at things on the completely wrong timescale.  Not to mention I don't even think that data is correct.

And you can't really debunk a doomsday scenario until that point in time actually passes...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090116163206.htm

2008 Global Temperature Ties As Eighth Warmest On Record

ScienceDaily (Jan. 19, 2009) — The year 2008 tied with 2001 as the eighth warmest year on record for the Earth, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures through December, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.  For December alone, the month also ranked as the eighth warmest globally, for the combined land and ocean surface temperature. The assessment is based on records dating back to 1880.

Please point out the flatline to me.  Cause I definitely don't see it.  In fact the pattern looks just like the last fifteen years, except that the average temperature is even higher.



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akuma587 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Cactus said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Cactus said:

I'm pretty sure that pollutants are the main contributer to global warming.

I am pretty sure the massive ball of fire in the sky is the main contributer to global warming.

Ooh, nice response. Now try responding to the second sentence of my post that you seem to have left out.

 

Better yet, give me a valid argument against this.

"...there has never been such an accelerated warming period as what we're experiencing now..."

"The inconvenient truth is that the earth's temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html

Not only that, while the globe has gotten more radical weather and warmer over the last 15-20 years, so has Mars. How has Mar's climate been effected by CO2 on earth?

 

That's like arguing that because you had one month with no rain that it is absolutely impossible for it to be the rainest year on record.  You are looking at things on the completely wrong timescale.  Not to mention I don't even think that data is correct.

And you can't really debunk a doomsday scenario until that point in time actually passes...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090116163206.htm

2008 Global Temperature Ties As Eighth Warmest On Record

ScienceDaily (Jan. 19, 2009) — The year 2008 tied with 2001 as the eighth warmest year on record for the Earth, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures through December, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.  For December alone, the month also ranked as the eighth warmest globally, for the combined land and ocean surface temperature. The assessment is based on records dating back to 1880.

Please point out the flatline to me.  Cause I definitely don't see it.  In fact the pattern looks just like the last fifteen years, except that the average temperature is even higher.

But that long term trent exists on other planets as well, and with the major increase in CO2, if that was the main factor, we would have gotten a LOT warmer.

The earth is warming, no question. I just think there is zero evidence to point to it being due to our energy consumption. Making policy that will cost trillions of dollars to fix a problem we have yet to understand, is insanity.



Mabey I should shed a little more light on why I came up with this. I saw a documentary on the Science channel about Earth's magnetic field weakening. Supposedly, this could be related to the galactic allignment we are about to cross in 2012. When we cross the "equator" of the galaxy, our magnetic field is supposed to collapse completely and restart in reverse. We have evidence of this happening in the past by studying cooled volcanic lava. As I said in the original post, I don't think the "o-zone" layer really exists, which is why I don't think pollutants are causing global warming. Some scientists attribute the failing of the magnetic field to our global warming. I think this is more reasonable that an "o-zone" layer with a hole in it. I don't think the extra heat our things are making are helping in any way, but you have made good points about how it would minimally effect our global temperature.

However, some scientists think the magnetic field will not change for a few thousand years. Most still do agree it is weakening and contributing to global warming. The planet is getting hotter on average. Whether or not we can do anything about it is the question.

One person earlier mentioned Mars getting hotter as well. This would help to prove the galactic allignment will reverse the magnetic field. We should also be noticing temperature increases on every other planet in our solar system as well if this is the case. I have not heard anything about temperature on the other planets.



I have moved and do not have the internet at home, yet.

"As I said in the original post, I don't think the "o-zone" layer really exists"

This guy wins the thread.