99% of the so-called fans on either side that tout how Forza 2 is better or GT5:P is better have no clue and have not played both games extensively.  It's as simple as that.  (In my best Yoda voice:) Lying little shits, fanboys are.

I have raced GT5:P extensively.  I have come in first on almost every event in all three classes.  I have purchased almost every car.  I have changed "assist" settings extensively.  I have played it on my DLP projector at about 80 inches diagonal as well as on my 42" 1080P Sharp Aquos.

I have done as much with Forza 2.  I've finished first in many of the events at this point (though admittedly not all of them).  I've played it on both of my screens and modified the assists as well.  I've played MANY of the cars and used many of the tuning and upgrade features.  In short, I've played the game extensively.

In the end:

GT5:P has better on-track car models.  Forza's are damn good, though.  Forza has better environments around the tracks.  Yeah, GT5:P has really beautiful stills and CGI stuff but I don't give a damn about all that.  It's a racing game.  On track is what really counts and they are very close in action -- so much so that I'd call it an overall tie unless you are just dead set on the cockpit view.  I don't care for it, though.

Both racers do a very good job of conveying the different handling characteristics of the different cars, drivetrains, horsepower, front-rear weight ratio and such.  They also do a good job of representing the different sounds.  Admittedly, GT5:P doesn't have the ability to buy upgrades as Forza does, but if you buy a supercharger or add a new exhaust to your car, you can hear the new muffler and the whine of 'charger where none existed before.  Sounds in both games are great.

Forza's game is so full of customizations in terms of handling and physics that anyone that argues that GT5:P is a better physics simulator is blind and hasn't played Forza and experimented with the extensive changes that can be made to affect a car's on-track performance.  Telemetry data for the win.

I realize that GT5:P is just a prologue so it isn't fair to compare all the extra stuff in Forza 2 like purchasing performance parts, painting, auctions, online features, and so on so I'll just leave it at that.

Here's the bottom line:  If you are a 360 fanboy and haven't played forza 2 and like racing sims, get Forza 3 (and Forza 2 if you want something cheap!).  Assuming Forza 3 improves on 2, it's going to be an damn amazing game -- PERIOD.  Forget about bashing GT5:P.  It's a good game, just like Forza 2, but I highly doubt the Full GT5 is going to be a better overall game than Forza 3 by some significant measure.  Just leave it alone.

If you are a Sony fanboy and think that GT5:P somehow smokes Forza 2, move along.  Go to the bank, take out a loan, and buy a clue.  The Forza 2 demo is good.  The game is GREAT.  Better than GT5:P when all things are considered.  When the FULL GT5 comes out, there is no doubt it will be an amazing game.  But then so will Forza 3 so, again, just leave it alone.

Your opinion not mine or many others.... i love both and i own both but your comparing GT5 PRO with a full retail forza 2....

Why dont we all just stop this and when both FULL games drop we can start it up again.... if i see another thread about which is better i will burn it......

Both games are good thats that....

First this should be in the gaming forums
second you should have named it Forza 2 smokes gt5p(you get more posts with better names)
i always thought prologue was better than forza 2

"I realize that GT5:P is just a prologue so it isn't fair to compare all the extra stuff in Forza 2 like purchasing performance parts, painting, auctions, online features, and so on so I'll just leave it at that."

I clearly pointed that out, I thought, and was just speaking of simulation and graphics -- those areas where everyone likes to say one kills the other.  They don't.  Both are spectacular in those regards.

I'm sick of the threads as well, but my point is that most of the threads are from assholes that don't have a clue what they are comparing.

again...?

Do you own Forza 2?  Have you played it extensively to compare?  What parts of prologue to you think are "Better" than Forza 2?

Just like 50 Cent attacking Ja Rule, the Forza series is getting an amazing amount of recognition by attacking Gran Turismo. Any publicity is good publicity, huh?

@kn

i own forza 2 but not prologue.

didn't prologue come out two years later than forza 2? so i assumed it had better graphics, texture, etc etc

LOL

@kn

Nice read. But don't expect fanboys to stop arguing. Even when professionnals will have thoroughly compared both finalized versions fanboy threads will keep on blossoming.

Overall prologue does have better graphics than forza but a lot of the graphics are the cgi intros, the stills of the cars and towns, etc.  Those are all beautiful but in the end they are meaningless in terms of gameplay.  The prologue car models are really, really well done.  Beautiful...  BUT the environments are largely lackluster and really come up short.  The ashphalt and lighting are awesome in GT5:P but clearly the game needs more time for other areas of the game to reach the level of details in the cars themselves.

If you are just comparing cars on track while racing, there isn't much difference overall between the two games.  One has better looking cars and the other has better looking tracks.  Again, overall, it's pretty much a tie because of the differences.