ElRhodeo said:
FreeTalkLive said:
We are talking about Germany here. Germany isn't exactly know for freedom of speech. In fact, it may have the worst freedom of speech laws of any Western developed nation.
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Huh? Could you elaborate that a bit?
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Germany's fascist history has led them to ban talking or writing about certain things. Denying the holocaust, praising the nazis, etc. can get you fined or even jail time. Now obviously it's pretty retarded to do either of those things, but Germany (many countries actually) don't exactly have the history of defending free speech, no matter how ugly, that the US does.
In an exchange during the Marc Lemire case, lead CHRC investigator Dean Steacy was asked "What value do you give Freedom of Speech when you investigate?" Steacy responded: "Freedom of Speech is an American concept, so I don't give it any value. It's not my job to give value to an American concept."
That quote is from a Canadian news story, but it's the same point.