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Kotaku recently asked Microsoft if the flourishing of non-gaming features like Netflix, Facebook, Last.fm and Twitter on the Xbox 360 will someday invalidate the classification of the device as a gaming console.

Since the original Xbox launched in 2001, Microsoft has worked hard to deflate suspicions that the company wasn't serious about video games.

Microsoft, skeptics assumed, was going to push gaming only as long as necessary to get Xboxes installed under every home TV. And then? The theory was that Microsoft would focus on the alchemy of dominating the set-top box market, with gaming as something less than the primary focus.

Much of that suspicion has been eliminated thanks to the Xbox 360's dominance with the hardcore gaming market and the platform's string of leading games. Microsoft has recently earned the reputation, in fact, of producing the premiere gamer's game machine of this console generation.

But non-gaming aspects of the Xbox 360 are on the rise. Netflix has become a big story for the Xbox 360 since it was integrated into the platform last fall. And this E3 saw announcements of Facebook, Twitter and Last.fm integration into the machine. Microsoft is selling movies and TV shows on the 360 and is in the midst of beta-testing a game show that would network thousands of homes. In the U.K. it will push the 360 as a new portal through which to watch major soccer matches and other Sky TV programming. Even Project Natal, which has been characterized as a next-level game controller was also shown at E3 as a next-level TV remote.

With all that in mind last week, we asked Shane Kim, Microsoft's corporate vice president of interactive entertainment strategy whether the "video game console" term was going to soon become invalid for the Xbox 360.

"The Center Of Home Entertainment," Kim responded, suggesting a more encompassing term. "It happens to be a great video game console. That's not going away."

Kim said the best sign of gaming's continued importance to the Xbox 360 was its lead position during Microsoft's E3 2009 briefing. The show started with games. "We want to make people understand that we're not leaving the gaming space. I definitely think that we can expand off that base, and that gaming is still going to be an important part of entertainment."

Two years ago, while speaking of Microsoft's entry into the console business, Bill Gates told Kotaku that "we wouldn't have done it if it was just a gaming device." He added: ""We wouldn't have gone into the category at all. It was strategically getting into the living room. This is not some big secret, Sony says the same things."

There was a time when comments about the Xbox's expansion beyond gaming would have panicked gamers. But it's worth re-assessing that fear. As Microsoft branches out from supporting a gaming-only home console, those who suggested that would be a bad thing don't seem to be speaking as loudly as before.

http://kotaku.com/5288214/when-will-it-be-wrong-to-call-the-xbox-360-a-game-console?skyline=true&s=x



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Interesting. The Xbox isn't becoming less of a game console, its becoming more of a home multimedia device while staying the same level its always been as a game console.



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this seems strangely similar to what sony's platform was which was criticzed by xbox fans, interesting to see how this goes



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Cypher1980 said:
Soon the Darkside will be irresistable and will crush the MS rebel scum underfoot.

The Wii owners are like Ewoks. The Evil empire will tolerate them but turn their forest moon into a secret base.

I noted the same thing on my podcast last week. It seems now MS is adopting Sony's original plan, while Sony is trying to pump out the hardcore games (not saying MS isn't either, its just ironic to me).



Vanversive said:
I noted the same thing on my podcast last week. It seems now MS is adopting Sony's original plan, while Sony is trying to pump out the hardcore games (not saying MS isn't either, its just ironic to me).

Sony already has the extras nailed down, so they are just solidifying there lineup is all.



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So long as something prints money, and keeps bringing in the coin, I don't think companies care what their devices are called.



honestly given microsoft's previous stance as catering to the "hardcore", this is an interesting change, my roommate has a 360 and it'll be a cold day in hell if he turns on his 360 just to check facebook or twitter, i think he'd be too worry it might overheat and get rrod



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Cypher1980 said:
Soon the Darkside will be irresistable and will crush the MS rebel scum underfoot.

The Wii owners are like Ewoks. The Evil empire will tolerate them but turn their forest moon into a secret base.

It'll never be wrong to call the 360 a game console.



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It's a gaming console, people are reading too much into it, it's just like how I never saw the PS3 as anything other than a gaming machine like they claimed it to "not only be" because the OS is a pile of crap, the same goes for 360 or the Wii, they are all gaming consoles.



dahuman said:
It's a gaming console, people are reading too much into it, it's just like how I never saw the PS3 as anything other than a gaming machine like they claimed it to "not only be" because the OS is a pile of crap, the same goes for 360 or the Wii, they are all gaming consoles.

i think you pretty much summed it up, only maybe the ps3 has some value as a "nongaming" console due to blu-ray, the fucking wii doesn't even do dvd playback, and i'm sure people people would be scared to always use their 360 because you never know when it might poop out on you



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Cypher1980 said:
Soon the Darkside will be irresistable and will crush the MS rebel scum underfoot.

The Wii owners are like Ewoks. The Evil empire will tolerate them but turn their forest moon into a secret base.