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bardicverse said:
..and now presenting EMO gaming. *shudder*

Btw, I doubt that EA is going to let him just stop making current projects. Contracts trump all.

Thats a ridiculous and narrowminded statement.  For a filmmaker like Spielberg emotions are everything.  It doesn't matter what the emotions are, excitement, fear, sadness, regret, exhileration....the ENTIRE point of movies is to elicit emotions.  The emotional spectrum of what games offer is still very limited, despite being around for over 30 years they are still in their infancy compared to movies.  People can write off Natal as a Eyetoy clone or copy of the Wii motion control idea but it's not just that it can see movement, track motion...it can read your face, read the expression in your voice!  That is huge in terms of being able to tailor a game experience not to just how you wave or your arm or where to move your body but to how you FEEL.

The jury will still be out until we actually see any games but the potential for this to change the way we play and experience games is what has a lot of people, like Spielberg, excited.  Like he says, throw out all your know about games today and think about things that have NEVER existed in a game that this device (or even one like it) could allow you to create.



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Vanversive said:
“This is going to try to bring those that are intimidated or scared of the technology, with what the buttons do or what the controller does, this is going to give people that don’t usually play videogames access to a whole new world that we know is compelling but they haven’t quite discovered yet,”


Are people really that scared of controllers? Does rumble run off a flux capacitor or something that may explode in our hands if used wrong?

"Scared" in the sense that those who don't play videogames don't want to get into them, because the controller is a barrier.  Perhaps, for some, there is a nerd/geek factor involving the controls that has them not wanting to be seen with one in their hand. 

Look at it this way, if you gave your mom and PS3 or 360 controller, would she want to play a game with it?  I say WAY too many buttons for the average person.



They've already made the perfect console for those people who are scared of a classic controller, it even has all the games for moms that don't like traditional video games, it's called the Wii.  

I don't really see any reason to copy the Wii, other then just to copy.  Then again I didn't see any reason to copy the ipod, but then MS made the Zune anyway.  I would expect this to have similar success to the Zune visa vi the ipod in converting the Wii users to the 360.  The Wii already has a few hundred casual friendly games on shelves today, how many does the 360 have?  A dozen?




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Natal will be HUGE!



Once again...please post some eyetoy video showing ANY applications like was displayed...please do.



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daroamer said:
bardicverse said:
..and now presenting EMO gaming. *shudder*

Btw, I doubt that EA is going to let him just stop making current projects. Contracts trump all.

1 -Thats a ridiculous and narrowminded statement.  For a filmmaker like Spielberg emotions are everything. 

 

 

 

2 - .it can read your face, read the expression in your voice!  That is huge in terms of being able to tailor a game experience not to just how you wave or your arm or where to move your body but to how you FEEL.

 

1 - to Spielberg, profit is everything. He's just jumping ship to the most profitable industry, since movies are expensive to make and arent as popular as gaming is

 

2 - Watch some gamers play an FPS or even an action/adventure game. they dont really have an emotion. they sit there and focus on what's on the screen, blank. The only time there are reactions are in multiplayer games, usually anger, and laughing when local multiplayer



Zune copied iPod? You do realize there are lots and lots of mp3 players on the market?



bardicverse said:
daroamer said:
bardicverse said:
..and now presenting EMO gaming. *shudder*

Btw, I doubt that EA is going to let him just stop making current projects. Contracts trump all.

1 -Thats a ridiculous and narrowminded statement.  For a filmmaker like Spielberg emotions are everything. 

 

 

 

2 - .it can read your face, read the expression in your voice!  That is huge in terms of being able to tailor a game experience not to just how you wave or your arm or where to move your body but to how you FEEL.

 

1 - to Spielberg, profit is everything. He's just jumping ship to the most profitable industry, since movies are expensive to make and arent as popular as gaming is

 

2 - Watch some gamers play an FPS or even an action/adventure game. they dont really have an emotion. they sit there and focus on what's on the screen, blank. The only time there are reactions are in multiplayer games, usually anger, and laughing when local multiplayer

1 - You're right, Schindler's List was all about making money.  What a cash in.  /sarcasm  The point was not necessarily about Spielberg alone, it's the goal of all filmmakers and films to ilicit emotions from the audience. 

2 - Thank you for making my point, emotional content within games is extremely limited and has vast amounts of room to expand.  This device could allow you to do that in ways that have NEVER been done before.



daroamer said:

1 - You're right, Schindler's List was all about making money.  What a cash in.  /sarcasm  The point was not necessarily about Spielberg alone, it's the goal of all filmmakers and films to ilicit emotions from the audience. 

2 - Thank you for making my point, emotional content within games is extremely limited and has vast amounts of room to expand.  This device could allow you to do that in ways that have NEVER been done before.

1 - That's great for Film makers, let them make films. Forcing emotion out of a gamer is not only unnecessary, but not likely to happen. Do you cry while playing Final Fantasy games?

2 - Adding on, yes games are limited in emotion, because games are not emotional things. Your goal is to win, not to feel. It always has been this way. Gamers don't want to feel - they want to enjoy, unwind and relax, and veg out from a world that is overrun with pointless feelings. I seriously doubt that a half-working prototype is going to be the golden avatar of emotional gaming



Talk about WEAK arguments against Natal...how pathetic some people can be...



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder