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Adobo on 02 June 2009

I'm sorry, I'm sure most of the household who owns an xbox 360 already owns a PC and would it be a pain to get up and use PC for Facebook or twitter to type your daily dramas?



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dcIKeeL on 02 June 2009
shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.

OMG, plz find me these many people who are as delusional as yourself?? A cheap gaming pc does not provide gaming at the efficient level of a console, not to mention constant upgrades simply add to the pc investment and are annoying as fuck. A gaming pc's specs that worked fine today, will not be enough next year, if you want console level gaming. This is especially true, if you decide to cut some corners and buy the cheapest considerably efficient gaming pc. You'd be upgrading in a few months.

-edit-

What, do you not pay for your broadband/dsl connection or something? how is online free?



Strategyking92 on 02 June 2009

All of these consoles this gen are basically PC's.
Price, upkeep (do I need a virus scanner on my xbox? Hell no!), new releases and other factors are the only things that seperate them.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

Obligatory dick measuring Gaming Laptop Specs: Sager NP8270-GTX: 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LC, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M, Intel Core i7-4700MQ, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive

CaseyDDR on 02 June 2009
Strategyking92 said:
All of these consoles this gen are basically PC's.
Price, upkeep (do I need a virus scanner on my xbox? Hell no!), new releases and other factors are the only things that seperate them.

If you honestly think you need a virus scanner for PC you are not only less informed than you thought, but disillusional also. 



The Halo francise is the most overrated bland game to ever hit the console market. It provides a bad name to all FPS that even showed effort at creating an original entertaining plot.

I probably have more ps3 games than you :/ 

CaseyDDR on 02 June 2009
dcIKeeL said:
shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.

OMG, plz find me these many people who are as delusional as yourself?? A cheap gaming pc does not provide gaming at the efficient level of a console, not to mention constant upgrades simply add to the pc investment and are annoying as fuck. A gaming pc's specs that worked fine today, will not be enough next year, if you want console level gaming. This is especially true, if you decide to cut some corners and buy the cheapest considerably efficient gaming pc. You'd be upgrading in a few months.

-edit-

What, do you not pay for your broadband/dsl connection or something? how is online free?

Considering most 360 games only run 720HD if that, (480p is only 640x480) most PC's CAN run those easily. 



The Halo francise is the most overrated bland game to ever hit the console market. It provides a bad name to all FPS that even showed effort at creating an original entertaining plot.

I probably have more ps3 games than you :/ 

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dcIKeeL on 02 June 2009

Let pc gaming die in peace. PCs don't offer the comfort of consoles. People think pcs and they think work. Great buying so many games with so many deals. You know what it means when things are relentlessly sold at wholesale prices??? utter garbage. That speaks more for how moribund pc gamings' state is than how 'cheap' it is.

Not everyone can be computer savvy to fully take advantage of pc gaming. Overall the unlimited potential of the pc is ultimately also it's limitations. Do you want a machine made for various wide ranging tasks or a machine specifically designed for gaming??



Strategyking92 on 02 June 2009
CaseyDDR said:
Strategyking92 said:
All of these consoles this gen are basically PC's.
Price, upkeep (do I need a virus scanner on my xbox? Hell no!), new releases and other factors are the only things that seperate them.

If you honestly think you need a virus scanner for PC you are not only less informed than you thought, but disillusional also. 


disillusional?

If you think you can surf the internet with a windows or vista computer safely without it.. good luck.

And those are the only "cheap" computers so if you say Mac or linux so help me I'll slice your balls off.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

Obligatory dick measuring Gaming Laptop Specs: Sager NP8270-GTX: 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LC, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M, Intel Core i7-4700MQ, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive

max power on 02 June 2009
nightsurge said:
max power said:
nightsurge said:
nightsurge said:
 

A 9800M GT you mean.  Technically a laptop would need to be even higher because the mobile counterparts to the desktop cards are not equal in power.

Also, the games true res may be low, but the Xbox 360 and PS3 scale them internally and still output an image that is 1080p.  Where did you friend happen to get a $600 laptop at retail that has a 9800M GT in it?  Lowest I have seen to have such a card was $1000.  Also, where are the links to those $500 retail PCs that have a good video card?

A 9500GT cannot support gaming at high settings with AA enabled like the 360 can, so don't try to give me one of those PC configs.  I'll lower it and say a 9600GT/HD4670 minimum.

Also, the Xbox 360 is striving to be an entire social networking experience in and of itself.  That's why it has Facebook and Twitter and all these other great features built in/added in.  PC's can do them to, yeah, but this is a unique experience designed to take advantage of the living room and the larger TV.

Still waiting...

Well, I'm not going to speak to your whole point... but your argument that the PS3 and 360 are somehow superior because they internally scale to 1080p is meaningless.  Any LCD-type television would do that for them, and scaling inevitably makes things look WORSE, not better.  A 600p image will look best scaled to 600p, not anything else.

I'm sorry but you are wrong.  The scaling capabilities built into consoles is much greater than that in an LCD TV.  Oh and good luck getting your LCD TV to upscale your computer's image.

lol wut?

Of course an LCD TV will upscale a computer's image.  However, I just run games at my monitor's native resolution.  It looks SO much better than upscaled.



max power on 02 June 2009
dcIKeeL said:
Let pc gaming die in peace. PCs don't offer the comfort of consoles. People think pcs and they think work. Great buying so many games with so many deals. You know what it means when things are relentlessly sold at wholesale prices??? utter garbage. That speaks more for how moribund pc gamings' state is than how 'cheap' it is.

Not everyone can be computer savvy to fully take advantage of pc gaming. Overall the unlimited potential of the pc is ultimately also it's limitations. Do you want a machine made for various wide ranging tasks or a machine specifically designed for gaming??

I want... both?

PC's do some things better, consoles do other things better.  Get off your high horse.



mysticD on 02 June 2009
Khuutra said:
shio said:
Khuutra said:
PCs are generally defined by moddability, aren't they? The Xbox 360 is too closed in terms of hardware and software to be considered a PC.

PCs weren't always "defined" by moddability though. It was only in the mid 90's that modding of PCs and games took flight. Anyway, it is possible to modify your Xbox 360, from simple aesthetics to switching HDD's, to more legally-strained modding and such.

Still a closed system. I could keep a PC for twenty years and play all those games the entire time if I kept the parts updated. That's not possible with the Xbox. I'm always going to have to buy the new one.

I have couple box full of PC games in my garage that doesn't run on my current system anymore.  And seriously keeping a tower size PC around from each generation just to play some of the game??   Let said 5 years from now when the next box come out, I probably can still pick up 360 for cheap and most likely the new system will be compatible.   Heck, my Dreamcast still work well when I hook it up last week.  I can't even play game just from few years ago on my current PC without downloading patch or mod.