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the motion wasn't really accurate.
and the whole thing got a deya vu from past E3.
actually it was a human Eye pet.
actually it's what SCE Liverpool been doing for a while a now.

microsoft bought the technology also, so don't give them much credit either.

but what they are planning to do with it its good, especially for artificial inteligence



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heruamon said:
Once again...take Mass Effect for example...all those personal interactions can be don't using this feature, rather than just a radial menu...games are about interaction, and this has it serious potential. I'm not talking about the combat sequences, but instead about the NPC interaction...walking around your ship...buying equipment...questioning people...etc. And all sony drone can say is eyetoy...WTF not from the videos I've seen...

I think it could be done, the game programmer simply would need to adjust the code to accept physical motion.



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ironman said:
NJ5 said:

@ironman: What I'm saying is very simple. If this is going to be "your body is the controller" with no traditional buttons, analog sticks or triggers (as announced), it's not going to work for many of the genres we play nowadays. Even a simple game like Wii Bowling needs a button to release the ball.

That means your statement that this blows the Wii out of the water is unjustified, certainly not provable yet. At best you can say it surpasses the Wii in some ways, while the Wii wins in other areas (again, going by the available information and leaving assumptions for later).

 

A simple opening of the hand, or twitch of the thumb would suffice to release the bowling ball. That would be determined by the game developers of course.

Maybe that could work, depending on the camera's accuracy (we have seen nothing using individual fingers yet). That was just the simplest example I could think of though, it's not hard to think about things which will be gimmicky or impossible with this control (such as moving throughout an open 3D world, which happens in lots of current games).

You mentioned higher immersion; yes, that's true and it could happen. Do you really think people want to jump every time there's an obstacle in a game though? Again it might work in some games, and not in others.

It's just a new control method, not a silver bullet.

 



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Well I'm not a huge fan of motion controls for big games and I think MS understands that the market for this type of product is the more casual side.

But putting that aside and just looking at the product that was pretty damn cool. Let's not try and compare this to the eye toy or anything that has been released before for a console it is clearly on a completely different level (altough sony hasn't had their press conference yet).

The User interface, voice recognition, face recognition were all very impresive. If it came bundled I would get it, but I don't think that is the direction MS is gonna go.



NJ5 said:
ironman said:
NJ5 said:

@ironman: What I'm saying is very simple. If this is going to be "your body is the controller" with no traditional buttons, analog sticks or triggers (as announced), it's not going to work for many of the genres we play nowadays. Even a simple game like Wii Bowling needs a button to release the ball.

That means your statement that this blows the Wii out of the water is unjustified, certainly not provable yet. At best you can say it surpasses the Wii in some ways, while the Wii wins in other areas (again, going by the available information and leaving assumptions for later).

 

A simple opening of the hand, or twitch of the thumb would suffice to release the bowling ball. That would be determined by the game developers of course.

Maybe that could work, depending on the camera's accuracy (we have seen nothing using individual fingers yet). That was just the simplest example I could think of though, it's not hard to think about things which will be gimmicky or impossible with this control (such as moving throughout an open 3D world, which happens in lots of current games).

You mentioned higher immersion; yes, that's true and it could happen. Do you really think people want to jump every time there's an obstacle in a game though? Again it might work in some games, and not in others.

It's just a new control method, not a silver bullet.

 

Never said it was a silver Bullet, I don't wish death upon any console, nor would I. I just think this system is amazing, can it work? Yes. Can it fail? yes. Will it be for everybody? No. If they could find a way to code the games to accept both this control and the origional controller, well, that would be prime.



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ironman said:

Never said it was a silver Bullet, I don't wish death upon any console, nor would I. I just think this system is amazing, can it work? Yes. Can it fail? yes. Will it be for everybody? No. If they could find a way to code the games to accept both this control and the origional controller, well, that would be prime.

That I can agree with.

 



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Cmon, its a great tech.

 

But as you can see, motion controlled games can be a tricky thing...

 

The wii is out for 2 years now, and until now we dont have a single game that uses motion control in an indispensable way.

 

MAYBE now with wii motion plus they can nail it.

 

But this NATAL thing looks more like something that will help people interact more with old content (like menu navigation, photo viewing, net surfing) than do anything new and real for hardcore games.

 

Still, an amazing tech.

 

 



Did you see the video I posted. It has some rudimentary games featured, so while this is still in it's early phase, I expect we will see much more come out of it.



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Looks like NATAL was already outdone by Ubisoft. Same technology coming along with a Ubisoft fitness game, including a motion sensing camera.

Looks like NATAL 6/1/09-6/1/09. RIP



maykissthebride said:

Cmon, its a great tech.

 

But as you can see, motion controlled games can be a tricky thing...

 

The wii is out for 2 years now, and until now we dont have a single game that uses motion control in an indispensable way.

 

MAYBE now with wii motion plus they can nail it.

 

But this NATAL thing looks more like something that will help people interact more with old content (like menu navigation, photo viewing, net surfing) than do anything new and real for hardcore games.

 

Still, an amazing tech.

 

 

360 doesn't have web broswer :/