Sorry I was probably a little harsh on SMG, MP3 not so much. MP3 will probably be a million seller, and SMG I also agree will probably go above 2 million. But a huge number of these sales will come from the current install base. I don't think Gears or TP are anomalies, so yes perhaps I should give SMG a little bit more credit... I just don't know if the planets and the different gravity and small worlds is going to be a huge as people think... I don't know if it's too complicated for most people that are dissuaded by complicated games. What do I think will push Wii into the stratusphere for system sales? Is a high def (480p is enough) sprite based (they can be 3D sprites if they need be) 2D Mario game. They should call it 'NEW' Super Mario World with awesome (even pre-rendered would be acceptable) backgrounds. Paper Mario doesn't count.

Thank you sieanr. It's nice when your words are appreciated. John Lucas

You're being REALLY harsh on SMG. Super Mario 64 sold 11.89 Million world wide. Even Sunshine sold 5.89 Mil world wide. So far, Wii is kicking both their asses in terms of sales*. As for the game itself, the videos show that there are large worlds in the game. There's even swimming levels. So far we've only seen a small taste of what the game has to offer. The only thing we know is that each glimpse we get is more amazing than the last. As for MP. the first one sold 2.77 ww and the second game 1.24. Once again, the Wii is going to leave the Cube in the dumpster. But also, Prime 3 has really gotten attention as a major Wiimote FPS. It's going to get the attention and focus that the others didn't. I think it'll easily break a mil in NA and in Europe. So... ya. * technically the Wii is 23,000 behind the 64 at this point in the game. But the 64 released earlier in the year, able to get stock up and sell over 800,000 in December. If you compare their first Jan and feb sales, you'll notice how the supply constrained Wii is blowing the in stock 64 out of the water.

Well, the fact that SMG and MP3 will have a bigger audience and in turn more sales due to more system sales doesn't really make their case as system sellers beyond their predecessors, now does it? SMG will be a killer app though. I don't know if it will do 10 million in sales, but its certainly possible. SMB, SMB2 (US and Jap combined), SMB3, SML, SML2, SMW, SM64 and soon NSMB all made it to 8 digits. SMS is the only main series Mario game to miss that mark.

Getting back on topic to Tiger Woods '07 Wii version.... http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/10055

I know exactly what you mean here OriGin. I think what's happening is when you're saying Metroid Prime 3 & Super Mario Galaxy won't be huge system sellers they think that you're saying those games will bomb on the market. That they won't sell any units. I think that's where the confusion is coming from. No these games will sell big no doubt but OriGin is talking about these games being able to persuade the newer incoming audience to want to buy and in that case he is correct. The audience that exists will buy Metroid Prime 3 & Super Mario Galaxy. We're already in the club so to speak. They know how to push our buttons. Zelda: Twlight Princess alone shows us OriGin's point. Look at the Japanese sales charts from week to week on Zelda often considered the #2, the left to Mario's right of Nintendo's franchises: Zelda: TW — Week to Week (Japan) It has only sold 435,250 units! And it's been out since launch there at December the 2nd last year! It is #46 on the charts at current standings of week ending March 11, 2007. It only moved 6,000 units this week & 7,000 units the week before that & 9,250 units the week before that. On the Americas charts it has sold a total of 1,419,250 by end of February 2007. 4 months on the charts. Zelda TW- Americas chart (check for February 2007) Zelda sells to those who have been entrenched in gaming world for years and years like us but it DOESN'T sell to those who would be coming in fresh to gaming. The people that are gonna REALLY make the sales are the NEW audience. Wii Sports & Wii Play move units to the "new breed". In one months time on the Americas charts Wii Play is close to selling 1/4 of what what Zelda sold in 4 months time. And people are surprised by this. They shouldn't be. The game has changed. You are in the midst of Nintendo's Revolution. A Revolution is a whole scale change on how things are done. I'm guilty of it myself. My idea of system sellers revolve around the IPs I grew up with and which were famous in years past for being the lynchpin of systems. Mario & Link will never die of course but the REAL system sellers are products that are unpredictable to our eyes. To us Tiger Woods 07 on Wii just seems like another EA cashcow capitalizing on a famous celebrity's product endorsement. And it WAS BEFORE. But that's before the Wiimote got involved. With the Wiimote things have changed. The Wiimote actually made me interested in Madden & I don't even like football much less most realistic sports games (baseball is the only one I dig). If the interface isn't too complicated Tiger Woods will be a smash on Wii. Wii Sports introduces the newcomers to the other titles. Do you understand that Bowling sims are now system sellers? Do you understand that Boxing sims will have a whole new power thanks to the Wii? Do you know that Pool games, Billiards are about to be monster sellers thanks to the Billiards game in Wii Play? Golf sims as well. What about Bassmaster Tournament Wii? Deer Hunter Wii? I don't quite agree with OriGin that Super Mario Galaxy won't be a system seller. It WILL make an impact on moving Wiis. It sells to the traditional buyers and may just interest the newer buyers though not on the level that Wii Sports did. But Metroid Prime 3 does not appeal to anyone but us. They will be high-quality as always but as for lasting system sellers its time is limited. What I think OriGin is talking about is LASTING system sellers on the level of Nintendogs & Brain Training not flash-in-the-pan system sellers that start explosively big like Monster Hunter Freedom 2 on PSP then fizzle out in the coming weeks. Games that don't sell systems in a burst but more rather in a slow burn. Thinking back on it I can't say he's totally off on Super Mario Galaxy not being on this level. Super Mario Galaxy will sell big and will move many units but for how long? I DO think much longer than any ol' school title we've seen. He may have a point there now that I think about it. Our idea of system sellers has to expand. We have games that are big monsters and will definitely make a big splash but what we REALLY need to look at are those games that will consistently encourage people to buy a game console over long periods of time. And these games may not be as obvious to point out. A system with traditional blockbusters and sleeper hits with sure & steady modest sellers makes a recipe for a console domination. What are people gonna say when Bob Ross Painting comes out on the Wii? (they gotta make this happen!) Will Animal Crossing Wii outdo its Nintendo icon siblings? What unforeseen title will become the new icon? Keep your eyes peeled & your mind open. This gameworld is changing & we need to be aware of where it's heading. John Lucas

oh no if that happends i know my co worker has been holding off on getting a wii till a good golf game has come out and if this game comes out then that is a seller

Sweet video. Some observations. 1. "Wii are in the game!". It really was a good naming move, as the slogans keep on coming. 2. EA is really pushing this one, and their Wii ventures as a whole. I don't see them giving as much push to their other console offerings 3. I think this game really is going to be a system seller. Just in a different way. It'll be the kind of game that a lot of people will consider an essential part of their Wii game library. Over time, as the console becomes available, people who aren't sure whether or not to get it will probably look at the games, and this is one of those games that'll help push people in to the "buy" category. 4. Tiger Woods played Zelda. That's awesome.

Stay on topic people, I just checked and GoW2 is ranked #1 not TW or Wii.

the industry didnt die wiht the original nintendo did it? it had lots of short easy games at the beginning. look at duck hunt it sold for many many years and was a classic.