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FKNetwork on 28 May 2009

Xbox Live piss#s all over PSN from a great height, I use both and can say that sooooo easily,

You know what they say, you get what you pay for......

 

Xbox Live ---> Steam ---> PSN ---> Wii Online



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SamuelRSmith on 28 May 2009
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pyramid Head said:
^^^

the money ive spent on xbl i could use to replace my latest rrod, this one out of warranty

ms can suck my willy tbh

between live and systems ive spent way too much on a leisure activity

ive been on xbox live for 3 years, and when i play ps3 i see no real difference aside from one or two cosmetic things

it is a scam plain and simple, and this is coming from a dedicated 360 user, who probobly has more gamerscore than you do

So becuase Sony's tactic against XBL was to make PSN free, XBL is a scam all of a sudden?......XBL is older than Sony's online efforts...Nothing has changed as far as pricing.

XBL is way more sucsesful than PSn plain and simply becuase on average people are willing to pay for it....You think PSN is free...But really it's not to everyone... And What's up with taxing DLC's?

No, it's been a scam from the start. People have been gaming online for free since the early 90s, and out of all the services out there, Microsoft is the only firm to charge for it. Hell - they don't even charge for Games For Windows Live anymore (they tried to, but they lost to the markets), the only reason that they get away with it with the Xbox is because Live is the only online service on the 360.



Ronster316 on 28 May 2009

I don't think microsoft will lose any sleep over a select few customers not wanting to pay for a quality service like XBL.



FKNetwork on 28 May 2009
Ronster316 said:
I don't think microsoft will lose any sleep over a select few customers not wanting to pay for a quality service like XBL.

Exactly!



Zizzla_Rachet on 28 May 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pyramid Head said:
^^^

the money ive spent on xbl i could use to replace my latest rrod, this one out of warranty

ms can suck my willy tbh

between live and systems ive spent way too much on a leisure activity

ive been on xbox live for 3 years, and when i play ps3 i see no real difference aside from one or two cosmetic things

it is a scam plain and simple, and this is coming from a dedicated 360 user, who probobly has more gamerscore than you do

So becuase Sony's tactic against XBL was to make PSN free, XBL is a scam all of a sudden?......XBL is older than Sony's online efforts...Nothing has changed as far as pricing.

XBL is way more sucsesful than PSn plain and simply becuase on average people are willing to pay for it....You think PSN is free...But really it's not to everyone... And What's up with taxing DLC's?

No, it's been a scam from the start. People have been gaming online for free since the early 90s, and out of all the services out there, Microsoft is the only firm to charge for it. Hell - they don't even charge for Games For Windows Live anymore (they tried to, but they lost to the markets), the only reason that they get away with it with the Xbox is because Live is the only online service on the 360.

On consoles?...I don't think so......Sega sure as hell tried but not enough people cared to buy a DC becuase all they wanted was a PS2...Out comes the Xbox and Makes Online console Gaming the standard and now you want to say it is a Scam becuase Sony is trying to Emulate the Xbox Brand?

As to the Windows Live thing..I thought that after that Xbox Live would be affected...Instead it has grown...



 



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SamuelRSmith on 28 May 2009
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pyramid Head said:
Sardauk said:
Pyramid Head said:
CaptDS9E said:
Yep it's down. First time in a while

"When I finally get my 360 I sure as hell won't be paying for XBL :"

Your loss

how is it his loss?

imho ive lost 150 + dollars paying for three years of live.  my subscription is running out and i'm going to let it.  i'll be doing my online gaming on ps3 until 360 FINALLY makes live free.

due to unrelated to online issues with ms, i cant stomach paying them again for something free.

im a 360 and xbl lover, and im going to the other side.

what exactly does he miss out on?  l4d maybe is the only thing (note that i hate halo)

anything else you can do online for free elsewhere.

 

That is not true, you paid for a (good) service.

It is like saying that you paid to send some letter via the post while you could have done it yourself by walking... wtf ....

actually its more like if you use firefox you can view this site free, but if you used ie than this site cost 50 dollars a year

its just brainwashing bro, i been on live since the day this system was released, and playing ps3 i see no difference bro

That was the dumbest Analogy.....CaptDS9E's makes sense...Pyramid Head.....can have voice chat on PSN the way you do on live?

Three things:

 - Voice chat isn't for everyone. It certainly isn't for me, I can't stand using party chat on Live - hell, I can't even stand using the phone, I find it uncomfortable.

 - Party/Private chat probably will come to the PSN in the future, it's more a question of "when" rather than "if".

 - You're paying $30/$40/$50 (whatever the hell the sub fee is) a year for voice chat? After all, there are two big differences between the PSN and Live. 1 - Live has in-game, cross-game voice chat and the PSN doesn't. 2 - Live requires a subscription, PSN doesn't. If Silver offered everything that the PSN offered, and Gold offered everything that the PSN didn't (so, party chat) how many people would be willing to pay the subscription for Gold, then?



SamuelRSmith on 28 May 2009
FKNetwork said:

Xbox Live piss#s all over PSN from a great height, I use both and can say that sooooo easily,

You know what they say, you get what you pay for......

 

Xbox Live ---> Steam ---> PSN ---> Wii Online

Xbox Live > Steam, how?



Zizzla_Rachet on 28 May 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pyramid Head said:
Sardauk said:
Pyramid Head said:
CaptDS9E said:
Yep it's down. First time in a while

"When I finally get my 360 I sure as hell won't be paying for XBL :"

Your loss

how is it his loss?

imho ive lost 150 + dollars paying for three years of live.  my subscription is running out and i'm going to let it.  i'll be doing my online gaming on ps3 until 360 FINALLY makes live free.

due to unrelated to online issues with ms, i cant stomach paying them again for something free.

im a 360 and xbl lover, and im going to the other side.

what exactly does he miss out on?  l4d maybe is the only thing (note that i hate halo)

anything else you can do online for free elsewhere.

 

That is not true, you paid for a (good) service.

It is like saying that you paid to send some letter via the post while you could have done it yourself by walking... wtf ....

actually its more like if you use firefox you can view this site free, but if you used ie than this site cost 50 dollars a year

its just brainwashing bro, i been on live since the day this system was released, and playing ps3 i see no difference bro

That was the dumbest Analogy.....CaptDS9E's makes sense...Pyramid Head.....can have voice chat on PSN the way you do on live?

Three things:

 - Voice chat isn't for everyone. It certainly isn't for me, I can't stand using party chat on Live - hell, I can't even stand using the phone, I find it uncomfortable.

 - Party/Private chat probably will come to the PSN in the future, it's more a question of "when" rather than "if".

 - You're paying $30/$40/$50 (whatever the hell the sub fee is) a year for voice chat? After all, there are two big differences between the PSN and Live. 1 - Live has in-game, cross-game voice chat and the PSN doesn't. 2 - Live requires a subscription, PSN doesn't. If Silver offered everything that the PSN offered, and Gold offered everything that the PSN didn't (so, party chat) how many people would be willing to pay the subscription for Gold, then?

over 13 million.......confirmed!

And we are debating if the newest report of 20 million users includes Silver Members



 



SamuelRSmith on 28 May 2009
Zizzla_Rachet said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pyramid Head said:
^^^

the money ive spent on xbl i could use to replace my latest rrod, this one out of warranty

ms can suck my willy tbh

between live and systems ive spent way too much on a leisure activity

ive been on xbox live for 3 years, and when i play ps3 i see no real difference aside from one or two cosmetic things

it is a scam plain and simple, and this is coming from a dedicated 360 user, who probobly has more gamerscore than you do

So becuase Sony's tactic against XBL was to make PSN free, XBL is a scam all of a sudden?......XBL is older than Sony's online efforts...Nothing has changed as far as pricing.

XBL is way more sucsesful than PSn plain and simply becuase on average people are willing to pay for it....You think PSN is free...But really it's not to everyone... And What's up with taxing DLC's?

No, it's been a scam from the start. People have been gaming online for free since the early 90s, and out of all the services out there, Microsoft is the only firm to charge for it. Hell - they don't even charge for Games For Windows Live anymore (they tried to, but they lost to the markets), the only reason that they get away with it with the Xbox is because Live is the only online service on the 360.

On consoles?...I don't think so......Sega sure as hell tried but not enough people cared to buy a DC becuase all they wanted was a PS2...Out comes the Xbox and Makes Online console Gaming the standard and now you want to say it is a Scam becuase Sony is trying to Emulate the Xbox Brand?

As to the Windows Live thing..I thought that after that Xbox Live would be affected...Instead it has grown...

I hate to break it to ya, but consoles are PCs. It doesn't cost Microsoft any more money to run a "console" service over a "PC" service.



SamuelRSmith on 28 May 2009
Zizzla_Rachet said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pyramid Head said:
Sardauk said:
Pyramid Head said:
CaptDS9E said:
Yep it's down. First time in a while

"When I finally get my 360 I sure as hell won't be paying for XBL :"

Your loss

how is it his loss?

imho ive lost 150 + dollars paying for three years of live.  my subscription is running out and i'm going to let it.  i'll be doing my online gaming on ps3 until 360 FINALLY makes live free.

due to unrelated to online issues with ms, i cant stomach paying them again for something free.

im a 360 and xbl lover, and im going to the other side.

what exactly does he miss out on?  l4d maybe is the only thing (note that i hate halo)

anything else you can do online for free elsewhere.

 

That is not true, you paid for a (good) service.

It is like saying that you paid to send some letter via the post while you could have done it yourself by walking... wtf ....

actually its more like if you use firefox you can view this site free, but if you used ie than this site cost 50 dollars a year

its just brainwashing bro, i been on live since the day this system was released, and playing ps3 i see no difference bro

That was the dumbest Analogy.....CaptDS9E's makes sense...Pyramid Head.....can have voice chat on PSN the way you do on live?

Three things:

 - Voice chat isn't for everyone. It certainly isn't for me, I can't stand using party chat on Live - hell, I can't even stand using the phone, I find it uncomfortable.

 - Party/Private chat probably will come to the PSN in the future, it's more a question of "when" rather than "if".

 - You're paying $30/$40/$50 (whatever the hell the sub fee is) a year for voice chat? After all, there are two big differences between the PSN and Live. 1 - Live has in-game, cross-game voice chat and the PSN doesn't. 2 - Live requires a subscription, PSN doesn't. If Silver offered everything that the PSN offered, and Gold offered everything that the PSN didn't (so, party chat) how many people would be willing to pay the subscription for Gold, then?

over 13 million.......confirmed!

And we are debating if the newest report of 20 million users includes Silver Members

Thanks for that, yeah, stating how many people are currently paying for the service proves or disproves my point, how? My point was how many people would be willing to pay for Gold if Silver already offered online play (so Silver was equivalent to PSN).