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Electronic Evolution: Research Show Robots Forming Human-like Societies

A lone group of Swiss scientists have been using scattered LEDs, neural circuity, and an army of miniature robots to explore the very basis of good and evil.  No, you aren't reading the back cover of a DVD in the "one dollar each, please get this trash out of our store" bin of your local blockbuster -this research is very real and very, very awesome.

Dario Floreano and his team at the Laboratory of Intelligent Systems in the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology built a swarm of mobile robots, outfitted with light bulbs and photodetectors.  These were set loose in a zone with illuminated "food" and "poison" zones which charged or depleted their batteries.  Their programming was initially random, so the first generation staggered around the place like bunch of concussed puppies.

At intervals, the robots were shut down and those that had the most charge left in their batteries were chosen as "successful", and their neural programming was combined to produce the next generation of the robots.  These offspring are downloaded into the same mechanical bodies their parents inhabited, forming an closed-circuit Buddhist system which might be an extremely efficient method of maintaining a stable population, but will provide a serious headache for any robot philosophers who might turn up.

Which could happen before long.  Within fifty generations of this electronic evolution, co-operative societies of robots had formed - helping each other to find food and avoid poison.  Even more amazing is the emergence of cheats and martyrs.  Transistorized traitors emerged which wrongly identified poison zone as food, luring their trusting brethren to their doom before scooting off to silently charge in a food zone - presumably while using a mechanical claw to twirl a silicon carving of a handlebar moustache.

You might be upset by this result, scientific proof that those who say "Evil is utterly fundamental to human nature" actually understates the scope of the problem, there were also silicon souls on the side of the angels.  Some robots advanced fearlessly into poison zones, flashing warning lights to keep other robots out of harms way.

At this rate of evolution, how long before we start to see other behaviors?  Maybe polarized priests, warning other robots not to eat any food so that they may receive infinite food after they're switched off.  Or actorbots, given huge quantities of food because they can pretend to be turned off by poison really well?

Posted by Luke McKinney.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/05/a-robot-hitler.html



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Am i the only one here that finds this facinating?



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No, I thought this was very interesting. I'd like to know more about it if you have any more links.



No, its very interesting. It just happens to be one of those BIG things that you almost don't want to believe for fear of it changing your world view fairly drastically.

I remember reading an argument some years ago about how some guy thought altruism was an evolutionary trait, and not believing it, thinking instead that it was a factor of environment; but alas, it would seem, at least on the surface of this experiment, that guy might be closer to the truth than I want to think...



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insomniac17 said:
No, I thought this was very interesting. I'd like to know more about it if you have any more links.

I will get back to this later with more info dont have the time now.

 

I there is interest in theese things i will find more of it.

 



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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

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Man I love anything related to Artificial or Man made Intelligence...I cant wait for cybernetics and androids



You and I are just that... but on a much greater scale.



 

 

i think this is interesting.



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how long before skynet?



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how long before skynet?

A pretty long time, or at least until robots can dynamically reprogram themselves.  You underestimate how many simple things humans actually know that are pretty complex that it takes awhile to learn, such as the effects of gravity, pain, nature, etc.  Even robots can't just pick it up overnight until they actually learn it.  But I guess they have the advantage of being able to digitally transfer information to each other (assuming that information was correct in the first place).

 



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