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cacafina on 19 May 2009
TheSteve said:
Back on topic: The feel I got form "See the Future" was that Theresa wasn't supposed to be evil, which makes even less sense and further invalidates much of the game... If she isn't evil, then why cause all this (she DID cause all of it...)? The view of the future answered NO questions, either, and instead just makes more. Frustrating on the whole.

The expansion seems bent on driving home the fact that nothing you did in Fable II mattered, because you are not an important part of the puzzle... The story was told in Fable and will be continued far in the future in Fable III. In Fable II, you were just on of the five chumps that were conned into setting everything into motion.

 

I agree with you i just finished see the future and yeah it now doesn't seem that bad (still having that weird feeling that she's planning something) but i did loved the future it was something that only molyneux could make it was like: maked you want fable 3 more and more, i agree it answers no questions and makes more but instead of dislinking that i actually liked it.

PD: have you found the last teddy bear?



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lolita on 19 May 2009

Copy/pasted from the other thread...

Nah I think she was rather Lucien's rival for the spire... She seems to want it weirdly enough and I agree she seems bad at the end. Well I guess that's Lionhead's way to prepare us for a sequel.



TheSteve on 20 May 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
TheSteve said:

Negatory... Tough to counterpoint you, since you're just saying "yeah it does!!  It was the greatest!!", but: You lived running around a farm for about 10-15 minutes of nonsense to give you a little "this is what a perfect life could have been if you hadn't been homeless orphans", but it was an absolute failure in having any meaning, ESPECIALLY if your hero in the game wasn't a "good guy".  Someone that was going to chose the "needs of the one" wouldn't give a damn about that sequence, it would just be an annoyance.  Someone who just killed his wife so he could get remarried to a better looking chick wouldn't care.  Someone that had a burning urge to kill Lucian and Reaver (and, possibly, Theresa) would not enjoy wasting time running around doing pointless fetch quests rather than pursuing justice/their path of vengance.  One specific character would, whoever Peter envisioned when he designed that part, and that's it.  It effectively hamstrung any sense of freedom by pigeonholing your character.  That and the poorly realized "decisions" made at the end (the "needs..." choices) were some of the biggest dissapointments in the game.

I understand what the hackneyed "story" of that segment was meant to be, but I took offense to the presumption that, regardless of who you were in this game that was supposed to more closely meet the hyperbolic "total freedom" goals of its predecessor, this was your motivation.

I didn't touch Fable II again for months due to the utter failure that was pretty much everything from the Spire onward.

drpunk said:
TheSteve, can I borrow your wife please? She sounds awesome.

Heh, she's gotta be trading hero dolls with somebody while I'm at work...  Does that count as "borrowing" her?

 

But all those evil doings came once the Hero grew up. The scene harkens back to a hypothetical past before such events happened.

The Hero might grow up to become a selfish bastard, but he/she's still a kid who's family was murdered.

Coincidentally, the same item that robbed the Hero from such a life is the same item that ends the scene.

You didn't like it and that's fine, but not everyone thought the same.

 

 

 Obviously, and you're entitled to your opinion.  I just think that the forced trip to your sisters fantasy childhood was pointless and jarring, almost as much as the "future" seen in "See the Future", in which you dont' see much of anything, except that...

 

 

****SPOILER****

...there's a king/queen (maybe your character), and they do a lot of stuff, but none of it matters, because they have a baby, and that's where the real story is at.

****SPOILER****

 

 

Really, the all of Fable II seemed to be that message...  "nothing you just did matters; wait for the sequal".



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Bitmap Frogs on 20 May 2009
TheSteve said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

But all those evil doings came once the Hero grew up. The scene harkens back to a hypothetical past before such events happened.

The Hero might grow up to become a selfish bastard, but he/she's still a kid who's family was murdered.

Coincidentally, the same item that robbed the Hero from such a life is the same item that ends the scene.

You didn't like it and that's fine, but not everyone thought the same.

 

 

 Obviously, and you're entitled to your opinion.  I just think that the forced trip to your sisters fantasy childhood was pointless and jarring, almost as much as the "future" seen in "See the Future", in which you dont' see much of anything, except that...

****SPOILER****

...there's a king/queen (maybe your character), and they do a lot of stuff, but none of it matters, because they have a baby, and that's where the real story is at.

****SPOILER****

Really, the all of Fable II seemed to be that message...  "nothing you just did matters; wait for the sequal".

 

As they say, opinions are like assholes =)

 





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TheSteve on 20 May 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
TheSteve said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

But all those evil doings came once the Hero grew up. The scene harkens back to a hypothetical past before such events happened.

The Hero might grow up to become a selfish bastard, but he/she's still a kid who's family was murdered.

Coincidentally, the same item that robbed the Hero from such a life is the same item that ends the scene.

You didn't like it and that's fine, but not everyone thought the same.

 

 

 Obviously, and you're entitled to your opinion.  I just think that the forced trip to your sisters fantasy childhood was pointless and jarring, almost as much as the "future" seen in "See the Future", in which you dont' see much of anything, except that...

****SPOILER****

...there's a king/queen (maybe your character), and they do a lot of stuff, but none of it matters, because they have a baby, and that's where the real story is at.

****SPOILER****

Really, the all of Fable II seemed to be that message...  "nothing you just did matters; wait for the sequal".

 

As they say, opinions are like assholes =)

 

 

 *thumbs up*

One thing we can agree on.  I've found a few that agree with my assesment of the "future" seen, though...  That said, it is an otherwise feature-rich DLC that has a lot of fun little quests and easter eggs.  The whole point of it was suppsoed to be a teaser for the sequal, however, and felt like a kick in the pants.



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Bitmap Frogs on 20 May 2009
TheSteve said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

As they say, opinions are like assholes =)

 

 

 *thumbs up*

One thing we can agree on.  I've found a few that agree with my assesment of the "future" seen, though...  That said, it is an otherwise feature-rich DLC that has a lot of fun little quests and easter eggs.  The whole point of it was suppsoed to be a teaser for the sequal, however, and felt like a kick in the pants.

 

I haven't played through the DLC. To be honest both the abusive price of the HDDs (I own a 2005 20 giger) and the reliability (eventually leading to drm issues n stuff) have put me off DLC and XBLA alltogether.





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TheSteve on 20 May 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
TheSteve said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

As they say, opinions are like assholes =)

 

 

 *thumbs up*

One thing we can agree on.  I've found a few that agree with my assesment of the "future" seen, though...  That said, it is an otherwise feature-rich DLC that has a lot of fun little quests and easter eggs.  The whole point of it was suppsoed to be a teaser for the sequal, however, and felt like a kick in the pants.

 

I haven't played through the DLC. To be honest both the abusive price of the HDDs (I own a 2005 20 giger) and the reliability (eventually leading to drm issues n stuff) have put me off DLC and XBLA alltogether.


You might be smart on that one... I was having fits trying to copy some music onto the drive the other day due to it randomly not recognizing some songs, and a lot of DLC is overpriced. Still... I'm a geek.

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