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CHYUII said:
ManusJustus said:
CHYUII said:

For every action must have a cause.  We know this as truth, not necessarily as scientists but as men.


IIn quantum physics, there are is uncertainity associated with the behaivor of particles.  This was upsetting for many athiest scientists at the time, because it meant that determinism was incorrect and that a scientific explanation of 'free will' was possible.  However, it also means that not everything has a cause.  Quantum fluctuations, which occur because of Hesinburg's Uncertainity Principle, have no cause, and it is believed by scientists that they played a role in the Big Bang.


What you are talking about is part of String Theory- as I said in all the text- the Theory is not proven and considered by some to be unprovable and thus phylosophy. (Even Witten the unifier of the 5 major theories of string theory said that the theory was murky.)

The top advocates all say that the theory is only speculation. (Even Witten)

The same justification that you give String Theory is infact an excuse that you should allow the Designer.

The Designer would not be subject to the LAWS of the system that they designed.

It is the same reason why people need String Theory to be (not that it bothers me ) and put their faith in it.

But why allow for eternity in one case and then revolk it in another?

No, I am talking about Quantum Physics, specifcally Heisenberg Uncertainity Principle which has nothing to do with String Theory.

I also do not describe to String Theory, and I agree with you that it is highly speculitive and, atleast for the time being, untestable.



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Khuutra said:

Wess this post gave me a headache, and CHYUII, you aren't helping.

Nothing is "more" or "less" evolved than anything else, ebcause evolution is not a linear process! That's a stupidi dea that's been perpetuated by Saturday morning cartoons and the Mario Bros. movie - there's no such thing as "devolution" i.e. evolution in reverse, because evolution is not linear - evolution is the adaptation to a given environment. You can't be "less evolved" than somehting else, you just evolved differently. I'm not more evolved than my dog, it just means that my ancestors changedd in ways that allowed them to fill a very different but still specific niche - we just interpret that as "higher evolution" or higher complexity as a leftover line of thought from religious doctrine that taught we were of a higher state than other animals.

We aren't.

Different races can't be more or less evolved. That's stupid and it's racist.

But it's true that we didn't involve in the same way, tooo. Me and my fiance come from different evolutionary backgrounds because our ancestors had to fill separate evolutionary niches in order to adapt best to their environments. And if we have kids, well, they'll be different too.

Sorry if it seems like I'm ranting, it's just that people interpreting evolution as being a linear process really, really burns me up.

Is that because you've got a sure-fire ticket to hell for believing in evolution?



Tease.

Squilliam said:

Is that because you've got a sure-fire ticket to hell for believing in evolution?

I would need to ask my pastor I guess



Khuutra said:
Squilliam said:

Is that because you've got a sure-fire ticket to hell for believing in evolution?

I would need to ask my pastor I guess

Rabbi is a better bet, Judaism is older therefore it has to be more right.



Tease.

USA. Evolution.

 

The Bible could potentially support it. God is perfection. Humans are made "in his image," since evolution naturally leads towards perfection, and we're the most evolved group, then there's biblical evolution.



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Mr Khan said:

USA. Evolution.

 

The Bible could potentially support it. God is perfection. Humans are made "in his image," since evolution naturally leads towards perfection, and we're the most evolved group, then there's biblical evolution.

No it doesn't and no we aren't hissssssssssssss



Khuutra said:
CHYUII said:
WessleWoggle said:
"Are we going to make the mistake of Hitler (not with the death) and start thinking that one race is less evolved than the next?"

Is that really a mistake? All races are more or less evolved in some areas.


The funny thing is that there is only ONE RACE: The Human Race!

We use it the way that we do now because of our entrenchments and because of the beliefs of ignorant European Explorers of the past.

It is excepted and even a matter of PRIDE in most or all factions but we are all Human.

 

Wess this post gave me a headache, and CHYUII, you aren't helping.

Nothing is "more" or "less" evolved than anything else, ebcause evolution is not a linear process! That's a stupidi dea that's been perpetuated by Saturday morning cartoons and the Mario Bros. movie - there's no such thing as "devolution" i.e. evolution in reverse, because evolution is not linear - evolution is the adaptation to a given environment. You can't be "less evolved" than somehting else, you just evolved differently. I'm not more evolved than my dog, it just means that my ancestors changedd in ways that allowed them to fill a very different but still specific niche - we just interpret that as "higher evolution" or higher complexity as a leftover line of thought from religious doctrine that taught we were of a higher state than other animals.

We aren't.

Different races can't be more or less evolved. That's stupid and it's racist.

But it's true that we didn't involve in the same way, tooo. Me and my fiance come from different evolutionary backgrounds because our ancestors had to fill separate evolutionary niches in order to adapt best to their environments. And if we have kids, well, they'll be different too.

Sorry if it seems like I'm ranting, it's just that people interpreting evolution as being a linear process really, really burns me up.

First, at CHYUII, There's more races than the human race...

I'm not saying any one race is better or worse, because there's large genetic variation between individuals. I never said evolution was a linear process.

Different races can be more or less evolved in different areas. Darker people have skin that is better for sun protection. When white man invaded native peoples, some died because their immune systems weren't as evolved.

Khuutra, you seem to contradict youself.

"Different races can't be more or less evolved. That's stupid and it's racist." 

"our ancestors had to fill separate evolutionary niches in order to adapt best to their environments."

Is being more evolved somehow different from being more adapted to your environment?

Also, why don't you believe in the concept of devolution? Over generations of inbreeding, or exposure to substances or radiation that can damage DNA, animals can become less adapted to thier environment. Or maybe that's called something different than devolution.

 

 

 



Chile-Evolution, dont know if I heard of ID



WessleWoggle said:

First, at CHYUII, There's more races than the human race...

I'm not saying any one race is better or worse, because there's large genetic variation between individuals. I never said evolution was a linear process.

Different races can be more or less evolved in different areas. Darker people have skin that is better for sun protection. When white man invaded native peoples, some died because their immune systems weren't as evolved.

Khuutra, you seem to contradict youself.

"Different races can't be more or less evolved. That's stupid and it's racist." 

"our ancestors had to fill separate evolutionary niches in order to adapt best to their environments."

Is being more evolved somehow different from being more adapted to your environment?

Also, why don't you believe in the concept of devolution? Over generations of inbreeding, or exposure to substances or radiation that can damage DNA, animals can become less adapted to thier environment. Or maybe that's called something different than devolution.

You are not 'more' or 'less' evolved in anything, ever, because evolution is not linear, it's branching. We evolved to fill different niches. That's not a  linear process. At all. That implies that, if the whole thing happened over again, we'd evolve in roughly the same way - but we wouldn't, the idea is ridiculous.

Black people are not evolved "more" to protect from the Sun - they're just evolved to fill the niche of an environment with a Hell of a lot of Sun. People in Norway are not. That's not more or less evolved - that's just fulfilling different niches. Acknowledging that there are differences between races is not racist, just the idea that one can be more highly evolved. We can't. Nothing is more highly evolved than anything else. We just evolved into different niches.

"Is being more evolved somehow different from being more adapted to your environment?"

Yes. The first example doesn't exist, and the second example means that you live to pass on your genes instead of dying.

You're right - that's not called "devolution". That's evolution too. That's why evolution doesn't work linearly - it's not always advantageous, and the vast majority of the time results in death or even extinction.



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Most people in Alabama are irrational incesting rednecks. I have no southern accent...i don't know why because i've lived in alabama all my life(i need to stop being so tangent). Alabama has the highest church attendance in the US, and most are very arrogant and are not open minded at all. Fortunately, there are those in Alabama who are rational(like me and my friends), and are free to debate with Christians about the views on evolution.