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deathgod33 on 11 May 2009

i think 360 will leave the market earlier because it entered it earlier.



 

 

 

 

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AFFLICTION on 11 May 2009

i love people who make threads like this to start shit



Jo21 on 11 May 2009
HappySqurriel said:
Jo21 said:
Squilliam said:
BHR-3 said:
Squilliam said:
BHR-3 said:
Squilliam said:

Thats what I believe. Does anyone have any good reason to counter that without referencing a 10 year plan?

Retailers and consumers decide how long something remains on the shelves. So if there are next generation consoles competing for shelf space, that shelf space is only going to come out of the lowest selling consoles alotment. It happens every time a generation switch over occours, and there has never been a precedent where 2-3 next generation and 2-3 current generation consoles have been sold at the same time at retail. So why would we face anything different if the same basic reasons behind this are the same? Since the PS3 is the lowest selling console, it will be the first to get kicked to the curb.

 

Ha ha HA ha

ur thinking that the PS3 will remain with its current low performance sales wise is wat ur problem is

the PS3 will be around longer than most think once it gets to lower price points to wat the 360 is currently at and even lower like 150$ sales will EXPLODE they will EXPLODE this year cause i think that the PS3 will be priced at 300$ b4 the years ends.

The consoles that have a better chance of not selling years from now are the ones that inferior, PS3 has a blu ray player free online and rechargeable battery built into the DS3 and more power potential  for devs all those factors cant be said about the other consoles. 

Wen the new gen begins wenever it is the new consoles will be priced at 300-400+ can u imagine a costumer going into a gamming store and seeing a 400+$ console next to a 150$ PS3 that has  blu ray and by then a remarkable game libary it will be like the ps2 vs 360 wen the 360 came out and we all know who sold more than

Yet the two consoles which sell the most use AA batteries, one hardly has online to speak of and the other has the largest online community on a console yet, neither have blu ray and yet the console which comes with Blu Ray doesn't come with either a remote or an HD cable.

Well, how about trying that $150 PS3 against a $250 Wii or a $299 Xbox evolution Arcade? Also the consoles will certainly be able to outperform the PS3 significantly by that time in a noticeable way even laymen can see.

 

 

ur right none of those features matter now but wen the next gen starts and the ps3 is at 150$ compared to a 400$ 720 or even 300$ wii2 they will, and they will matter soon once the ps3 gets to 300$ and below which i predict will happen this year

i dont think so have u seen the graphix for KZ2 compared to Halo 3 or KZ2 compared to any current console FPS? by 2012 PS3s gaming will be way different than todays once technology catches up to it its future games will make its current games look inferior.  The PS3 was purposely build the way it is its so called future proof so that it can take on the the next gen 150$ PS3 vs 300$-500$ next gen consoles sounds like PS3 win to me

 

I've seen KZ2 on a 53" High end Bravia, It was pretty good. Still, I hate dark games. I liked Gears 2 better because the visuals were clearer for me. By 2012, you say? By 2012 you could probably build a new console which was more than 3* as powerful as the PS3 for the same price, its fixed hardware remember? The PS2 was also a future proofed console, remember what happened with that also?

 

by 2012 ps3 may be hitting the 200$ price cuts. manufacturing gets cheaper remenber that.

 

... and by 2012 the 7 year gap between the XBox 360 and the next generation console would translate to a $300 console being between 8 and 16 times as powerful as the XBox 360/PS3 are.

GOOD then the ps3 may be even cheaper! 100$

 



dahuman on 11 May 2009

I just shaked my magic 8 ball and it said "outcome doesn't look good."



HappySqurriel on 11 May 2009
Jo21 said:

GOOD then the ps3 may be even cheaper! 100$

 

 

Maybe, but probably not ...

The biggest mistake any console manufacturer ever made when it comes to producing an inexpensive console was include a hard-drive as a default. Hard-drives are very cost effective in a per-(mega/giga/tera)byte measure but, no matter how old they get, they never become an inexpensive component; in 2012, when Sony still has to devote $40 to $60 towards their hard-drive it will be amazingly difficult to reduce the price of the PS3 to $100 ... With manufacturing, distribution, and the tiny ammount of retail mark-up I wouldn't expect the PS3 to ever be (much) below $150 to $200 unless Sony was taking a loss on every unit sold.



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nightsurge on 11 May 2009
AFFLICTION said:
i love people who make threads like this to start shit

i love people who don't read the thread and even when they do they don't understand what he is saying so they try to start shit

Seriously people, there is absolutely nothing wrong with his logic.  And have any of you noticed HE IS JUST REFERENCING AMERICA AKA THE USA (and surrounding countries)!  You know, the place where the 360 has almost ALWAYS sold more regardless of price cuts.  Where the 360 has over a 9 million lead alone!  Where the PS3 sells poorest in comparison to other regions!

Gosh, sometimes people need to read and think and understand before trying to label someone as intelligent as Squilliam a fanboy.

The Gamecube was dropped like a rock after the new gen started.  It was in last place in sales in the US.  The PS2 still sells to this day because it was the market leader.  The Xbox was dropped just for Microsoft to focus all its attention on its real investment and first major push as making a thriving console after the original Xbox Live was such a success.

The PS3 is now in last place by a VERY long shot.  More than double their total even in the US.  If any console is going to be dropped from retailers due to lacking sales at the launch of the next generation of consoles it will be the PS3 in the US.  Sure that year may not be 2012.  It could be 2011 or it could be 2013 or 2014.  Regardless, whenever that year comes the PS3 will be cut first and that will stop the 10 year plan in its tracks for America AKA the USA.



Squilliam on 11 May 2009

^ Thank you sir!



Tease.

dahuman on 12 May 2009

in addition, even when Nintendo was in the supposed last place with Gamecube, they still made profits every year, which is not something Sony can do with the PS3 apparently, they took themselves for granted and it's biting them in the ass.



twingo on 12 May 2009
dahuman said:
in addition, even when Nintendo was in the supposed last place with Gamecube, they still made profits every year, which is not something Sony can do with the PS3 apparently, they took themselves for granted and it's biting them in the ass.

Talk profits losses but no one here has even a tiny clue how much BR will mean overall for them, what the profits from BR are or will be.

All that is thrown in to their PS3 equation among other things, most of you fail to grasp that little fact.

 



dahuman on 12 May 2009

When we talk about MS, we talk about their gaming divisions, not their computer ones, the same is true for Sony, if the PS3 is starting to become dead weight and Blu-Ray players are already getting much cheaper than a PS3 even now, then that factor is absolutely useless. On the other hand, Nintendo only makes video games, and apparently they are better at managing their company than Sony, how's that for a fact? besides, in the near future, HVD will most likely take over and nobody will care about Blu-Ray that much unless people start to catch up soon.