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czecherychestnut said:
TheSteve said:
czecherychestnut said:
Derek said:
TheSteve said:
Is it even hate, or is it just a general lack of confidence?

I mean, saying "the PS3 won't reach 10m" a few years ago doesn't seem any more off-base than saying "the PS3 will outsell the 360" now. It's all speculation based on little-to-no real data, just pessimism or optimism.

Now, saying "the PS3 will end this generation in dead last, according to a linear regression of its current trends," however, actually has a great deal of merit.

 

 I think at this point the PS3 has become a parody of itself, and as a result gets opened mocked.  Even more entertaining is when "MGS4" or "KZ2" is supposed to quiet the detractors.  Quite simply, PS3 owners don't "get it."  They have become part of the joke.

Thanks for the awesome sweeping generalisation. Not just fanboys, but all PS3 owners. Here I was happy with a good console with lots of good games, not particularly phased by the 360 having higher sales currently, but yeah, totally agree with you, PS3 owners are jokes. Because being an epic 360 fanboy, thats just way cooler, and clearly shows all us PS3 owners that your net-penis is many times bigger than ours. I am truly humbled. I just wish I had the energy and time required to hate a piece of consumer electronics.

 

 

I'm a PS3 owner, too...  Lighten up.  It was an oversight on his part, but not entirely incorrect.  I DO feel like part of the joke when Sony strong armed me into being an early adopter by dropping backwards compatibility, and then awards the hit on my wallet with delusional PR promises.

That's why it's the $600 blu-ray player/part-time paperweight in my entertainment cabinet.

 

 Thats your call to make, seems to me you're cutting off your own nose to spite your face though. I am quite relaxed too  thanks, just trying to understand how someone could hate a piece of plastic, silicon and metal. I'd rather focus my energy on something that actually affects me and my life, you know, but whatever.

The nose/face thing: because I only own a handful of PS3 games I don't play terribly often?  I wouldn't say that...  I don't regret buying the console due to that (I thouroughly enjoyed Heavenly Sword and Disgaea 3, and Res 2 was a passable game while I was recovering from my RROD, and I couldn't have played them on 360.  Also, I'm looking forward to GoW III).  I DO regret that my purchase supported a company that since then has seemingly done its best to render the purchase a mistake.

I do agree with you on the other points, however...  fanboism is at its worst when it meaninglessly bashes the console the fanboy doesn't own.  That's just jealousy.



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People think the 360 is selling more because it's the better console but it's not. It's just cheaper. If Microsoft didn't do a price drop last year I'm guessing the 360 would be up by maybe 3-5 million instead of 9 million.

I believe the PS3 will out sell the 360 at the end of this gen for the fact that the PS3 have better games coming out and the PS3 will be around longer. I think the 360 got to do better in Japan for it to beat PS3. 360 sales are declining in Japan while PS3 is going strong. As soon as a price cut comes hopefully by Christmas time I'm guessing the PS3 will sell like crazy especially if by any chance God of War 3 or GT5 come out by Christmas.



C_Hollomon said:
People think the 360 is selling more because it's the better console but it's not. It's just cheaper. If Microsoft didn't do a price drop last year I'm guessing the 360 would be up by maybe 3-5 million instead of 9 million.

I believe the PS3 will out sell the 360 at the end of this gen for the fact that the PS3 have better games coming out and the PS3 will be around longer. I think the 360 got to do better in Japan for it to beat PS3. 360 sales are declining in Japan while PS3 is going strong. As soon as a price cut comes hopefully by Christmas time I'm guessing the PS3 will sell like crazy especially if by any chance God of War 3 or GT5 come out by Christmas.

 

 Ummm...



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C_Hollomon said:
People think the 360 is selling more because it's the better console but it's not. It's just cheaper. If Microsoft didn't do a price drop last year I'm guessing the 360 would be up by maybe 3-5 million instead of 9 million.

I believe the PS3 will out sell the 360 at the end of this gen for the fact that the PS3 have better games coming out and the PS3 will be around longer. I think the 360 got to do better in Japan for it to beat PS3. 360 sales are declining in Japan while PS3 is going strong. As soon as a price cut comes hopefully by Christmas time I'm guessing the PS3 will sell like crazy especially if by any chance God of War 3 or GT5 come out by Christmas.

 

Japan sales are largely irrelevant.  They're all about the handhelds there, not consoles.



Stop getting so excited about a Kid Icarus remake... the original NES Icarus sucked.

 

I don't think the ps3 would ever eclipse the 360 at least while this gen remains relevant but it has certainly improved and is set to outperform every other 2nd/3rd place console in history. For someone who had the console since July 2007, I can attest to the improvements that have been added to the ps3's functionality since then.

however, one has to realize that haters would always hate. If it isn't one thing, it's the other. Expecting hate to stop is naive so I say let 'em bring more. They're entertaining and give us lots to discuss.



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Euphoria14 said:

To claim that PS3 has no games, that it is a waste of money, etc... is stupid. They pumped out three 90+ games in the last 6 months with LBP, MLB 09 and KZ2. That is just 1st party.

If you ever played a PS1 or a PS2 you would know that claiming SONY has no "games" is just dumb. Just look at their 1st party credentials.

 

What is your PSN ID by the way?

Euphoria: Aside from LBP (which 360 currently has no counter for), the 360's software matches or bests the PS3's in practically every genre.  Unless MGS or GT was/is a must have for someone, I'm not sure why anyone would choose a PS over an Xbox (given the price difference).

Of course, Sony could change things with a $100 price cut, but I can't really see them doing that.  I guess we'll have more info regarding this in a week when they release financials and at E3.

And, I'm aware that Sony *has* games.  I owned an original PlayStation, before it died on me. 

 

Oh, and no PSN ID.  I play an occasional game at a friends house, but that's the closest to a PS3 I'm getting for now.  If they ever drop to $199, then I may reconsider. 

 

 



Stop getting so excited about a Kid Icarus remake... the original NES Icarus sucked.

 

CGI-Quality said:
Derek said:
PS3beats360 said:
PS3 is the best console. The hate was jealously.

A few from urbandictionary.com:

1. delusional  
 
Someone who is not thinking clearly, or thinks something will happen that, in all likelyhood, will not

2. Delusional  
 
Used to describe someone attached to an idea which is either false, or has changed. An alternative to "living in the past."

 

 

How is he delusional, it's his opinion (and RIGHT) to think the PS3 is best. Some of the hate does come from jealousy, as it does with all hate towards any console (or THING for that matter). YOU just seem to be in denial.

 

5. delusional  
 
adj.
1. Someone who believes only their way, and everyone else is wrong.

2. Someone who is obsessed or stuck on one false belief and ignorantly denies logic and reasoning.

 



Stop getting so excited about a Kid Icarus remake... the original NES Icarus sucked.

 

Derek said:
C_Hollomon said:
People think the 360 is selling more because it's the better console but it's not. It's just cheaper. If Microsoft didn't do a price drop last year I'm guessing the 360 would be up by maybe 3-5 million instead of 9 million.

I believe the PS3 will out sell the 360 at the end of this gen for the fact that the PS3 have better games coming out and the PS3 will be around longer. I think the 360 got to do better in Japan for it to beat PS3. 360 sales are declining in Japan while PS3 is going strong. As soon as a price cut comes hopefully by Christmas time I'm guessing the PS3 will sell like crazy especially if by any chance God of War 3 or GT5 come out by Christmas.

 

Japan sales are largely irrelevant.  They're all about the handhelds there, not consoles.

 

Ignoring the relevance topic why not highlight the guy being completely and utterly wrong.  Japan sales for the 360 have been up YoY all year so I don't understand how they're supposedly declining.  After reading you being completely wrong on the Japan subject I figure the rest of your post is just as ill informed.  Perhaps you should stay away from SDF and read some proper news sites C_Hollomon.

@CGI - The author is delusional because there is blatantly still hate out there in the press.  Doesn't mean he's not entitled to an opinion but calling people out for saying what needed to be said about the PS3 is very poor journalism and reeks of fanboy bias.



C_Hollomon said:
People think the 360 is selling more because it's the better console but it's not. It's just cheaper. If Microsoft didn't do a price drop last year I'm guessing the 360 would be up by maybe 3-5 million instead of 9 million.

I believe the PS3 will out sell the 360 at the end of this gen for the fact that the PS3 have better games coming out and the PS3 will be around longer. I think the 360 got to do better in Japan for it to beat PS3. 360 sales are declining in Japan while PS3 is going strong. As soon as a price cut comes hopefully by Christmas time I'm guessing the PS3 will sell like crazy especially if by any chance God of War 3 or GT5 come out by Christmas.

By taking japanese numbers to further your point about the PS3 outselling the 360, you're just spinning numbers of no importance. The XBOX 360 focusses on America and others. Any weakness there could have some importance but not this. The XBOX 360 isn't winning in japan. Basically it isn't there at all. It has shown remaining strength everywhere else and the sales difference between PS3 and 360 has only grown. Some 8 million even.

 



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CGI-Quality said:
Derek said:
CGI-Quality said:
Derek said:
PS3beats360 said:
PS3 is the best console. The hate was jealously.

A few from urbandictionary.com:

1. delusional  
 
Someone who is not thinking clearly, or thinks something will happen that, in all likelyhood, will not

2. Delusional  
 
Used to describe someone attached to an idea which is either false, or has changed. An alternative to "living in the past."

 

 

How is he delusional, it's his opinion (and RIGHT) to think the PS3 is best. Some of the hate does come from jealousy, as it does with all hate towards any console (or THING for that matter). YOU just seem to be in denial.

 

5. delusional  
 
adj.
1. Someone who believes only their way, and everyone else is wrong.

2. Someone who is obsessed or stuck on one false belief and ignorantly denies logic and reasoning.

 

So he's delusional because he thinks the PS3 is the best? Well, you think the 360 is the best, correct? How are you any less delusional?

And it's ironic you posted this, when YOU yourself, aren't willing to listen to reason. Hypocrisy at it's best it would seem.

3. delusional  
 
An insult/label often flung at those who have beliefs that are not commonly accepted.

 



Stop getting so excited about a Kid Icarus remake... the original NES Icarus sucked.