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xlost8 on 04 May 2009
HappySqurriel said:
xlost8 said:
@txrattlesnake

That is weird and funny at the same time. I remember way before the election gas prices was hitting $5 and I didn't have a high compression engine either, good thing I didn't have my Acura TL then because gas would of been $6 or so. I mean as soon as the election was going on I saw gas prices begin to slowly go down to about $3 then to $2. Then got to the point $1.30 and so on. I believe Obama played some part in gas prices decreasing.

 

You believe wrong.

Oil prices began to fall due to the lower demand from the economic collapse well before Obama took office ...

Your correct, the economy was collapsing and gas prices had to make a downturn.



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Username2324 on 04 May 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Username2324 said:
txrattlesnake said:

My mother is a retired teacher and she always says the last time things were really affordable in this income bracket sub $30,000.00 was under Clinton.

 

I remember when I used to buy gas prior to Bush's presidency when Clinton was still president back in 1998 and 1999 and you could purchase it for $1.00 a gallon.

The only reason gas prices are as low as they are today is because of Bush......

 

 

      That's funny because I remember when I used to have to drive to my old job and Bush was President gas prices were approaching $5.00 a gallon, then as it became more evident that Obama would be President gas prices went down to $2.00 and they've pretty much stayed there ever since.

You think simply because Obama ran for President that gas prices fell? It was Bush at the end of his term that caused them to go down and stay down, Obama hasn't done anything.

 



xlost8 on 04 May 2009

@Username2324

What did Bush do to calm the gas prices down? Please enlighten me, I want to know.



FaRmLaNd on 04 May 2009

I'd expect the leader of any superpower to be a liar and a bully.



txrattlesnake on 04 May 2009

Now my mom does say Obama isn't doing enough to help senior citizens and she says food costs are too high (but I blame that on the wealthy corporations that aren't pleased with Obama's plans to help out the poorer citizens wanting to compensate for his plans by driving up the price of food.)



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TheRealMafoo on 04 May 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Now my mom does say Obama isn't doing enough to help senior citizens and she says food costs are too high (but I blame that on the wealthy corporations that aren't pleased with Obama's plans to help out the poorer citizens wanting to compensate for his plans by driving up the price of food.)

 

If you want to help the poor, or people on fixed incomes, there are two ways to do it.

One is to give them money they have done nothing to earn. The other way is to increase the purchasing power of the money they do earn (or have).

I am for the latter, Obama is for the former.

Companies are going to make there money. If you increase there operating costs, they will just pass it on to the consumer. Also, when you spend the way Obama is spending, you cause inflation, reducing the value of your moms, and everyone else's, money.

Obama plans to counter that by taking this extra money he hopes he collects, and giving it to the poor.

It's about the worst economic plan one could devise. It breeds complacency, and never really works.

If he does what he wants to do, it is an absolute truth that the purchasing power of the dollar will go down, while just a hopeful prediction that there will be enough money in the coffers to distribute to the poor.

Do you really want to put that kind of faith in government?



Resistance09 on 04 May 2009

the government sucks donkey



McClaren on 04 May 2009
TheRealMafoo said:

Please forgive that it’s Fox News, but that’s where my news aggregator took me. All I am going to reference from the news story, is a few quotes from Obama (so I assume those are at least factual)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/04/obama-crack-business-taxes/

"The way to make American businesses competitive is not to let some citizens and businesses dodge their responsibility, while ordinary Americans pick up the slack. Unfortunately, that's exactly what we're doing"

Forget for a moment if you think corporations should or shouldn’t pay more taxes. Explain to me how increasing the financial burden of a corporation, makes them more competitive? Does he believe the words coming out of his mouth? I am not arguing if these tax loopholes should be closed, I am just disgusted that Obama would try and spin it as a positive for competiveness. I guess when you feel your constituents are idiots, you can say anything.

"If financial institutions won't cooperate with us, we will assume that they are sheltering money in tax havens and act accordingly"

Are you kidding me? This is the same logic that Bush used to enter the war in Iraq. They won’t let us look for WMD’s, then they must have them, and we will act accordingly.

I forget the member that has the graphic of Obama living the thug life, but he is looking more and more accurate

I don't think Obama is going to add these corporations to the Axis of Evil. :)

 



McClaren on 05 May 2009
xlost8 said:
@Username2324

What did Bush do to calm the gas prices down? Please enlighten me, I want to know.

 

 Exactly. Bush didn't fix the gas prices, OPEC did because they knew in order to keep Americans buying oil in the bad economy you have to sell it for less per barrel.



txrattlesnake on 05 May 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
txrattlesnake said:
Now my mom does say Obama isn't doing enough to help senior citizens and she says food costs are too high (but I blame that on the wealthy corporations that aren't pleased with Obama's plans to help out the poorer citizens wanting to compensate for his plans by driving up the price of food.)

 

If you want to help the poor, or people on fixed incomes, there are two ways to do it.

One is to give them money they have done nothing to earn. The other way is to increase the purchasing power of the money they do earn (or have).

I am for the latter, Obama is for the former.

Companies are going to make there money. If you increase there operating costs, they will just pass it on to the consumer. Also, when you spend the way Obama is spending, you cause inflation, reducing the value of your moms, and everyone else's, money.

Obama plans to counter that by taking this extra money he hopes he collects, and giving it to the poor.

It's about the worst economic plan one could devise. It breeds complacency, and never really works.

If he does what he wants to do, it is an absolute truth that the purchasing power of the dollar will go down, while just a hopeful prediction that there will be enough money in the coffers to distribute to the poor.

Do you really want to put that kind of faith in government?

      Of course if those companies want to pass the cost on to the consumers that way...well...there are historical precendents that show what to do in those circumstances.  And I know that at my last job where I was working harder than anyone else there, yet I was being passed over for promtions because the supervisors wanted their kids to become the next managers, what could I really do.  Take the meager scraps of pay I was being given when I was the best one there or something else?