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JaggedSac on 02 May 2009
Squilliam said:
JaggedSac said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
This is FUD =/

I'm even sceptical of the rumored "slim 360" until next year. Jaspers barely show any reduction in motherboard components compared to Falcons... they might have to wait until they are able to merge the cpu and gpu on a single die.

I think the hard drive would be the biggest problem.  They would have to make a completely different set of hard drives.

 

The current HDD design dictates width, but it doesn't mean the consoles length or depth cannot be shortened some. Theres also a very obvious solution to this problem which is to make the HDD enclosure a two piece set where you can take the smaller piece out of the larger piece to fit it onto a slimline console.

 

Hmm...that is interesting.  Can you draw me a picture?

 



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Squilliam on 02 May 2009
JaggedSac said:
Squilliam said:
JaggedSac said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
This is FUD =/

I'm even sceptical of the rumored "slim 360" until next year. Jaspers barely show any reduction in motherboard components compared to Falcons... they might have to wait until they are able to merge the cpu and gpu on a single die.

I think the hard drive would be the biggest problem.  They would have to make a completely different set of hard drives.

 

The current HDD design dictates width, but it doesn't mean the consoles length or depth cannot be shortened some. Theres also a very obvious solution to this problem which is to make the HDD enclosure a two piece set where you can take the smaller piece out of the larger piece to fit it onto a slimline console.

 

Hmm...that is interesting.  Can you draw me a picture?

 

Sorry, im no good with pictures but it would essentially involve being able to unseat the HDD from the enclosure and inserting it into another. Imagine having a 2.5" external HDD inside another external housing. Heck, they could even transition to using the 1.8" form factor which is far smaller.

 



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JaggedSac on 02 May 2009
Squilliam said:
JaggedSac said:
Squilliam said:

The current HDD design dictates width, but it doesn't mean the consoles length or depth cannot be shortened some. Theres also a very obvious solution to this problem which is to make the HDD enclosure a two piece set where you can take the smaller piece out of the larger piece to fit it onto a slimline console.

 

Hmm...that is interesting.  Can you draw me a picture?

 

Sorry, im no good with pictures but it would essentially involve being able to unseat the HDD from the enclosure and inserting it into another. Imagine having a 2.5" external HDD inside another external housing. Heck, they could even transition to using the 1.8" form factor which is far smaller.

 

That could work.  Captain Kirk strikes again.

 



Alby_da_Wolf on 02 May 2009

@Squilliam about your answer to kowenicki:
I totally agree: the only thing that MS, or Sony outside of Japan, for what it matters, could do to make Nintendo nervous is if they make them laugh too loud and spill their Champagne on their new Armani suits or make it go down the wrong way.  

Edit: anyhow the article quoted in the OP is a joke, right?  RIGHT? 



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Squilliam on 02 May 2009

I was pondering that very question a while ago when I was thinking about the Xbox 360 slim coming up... Though I still don't know WHEN they intend to actually make this change.

Btw, if they do release in 2010, look for a console with all Intel hardware. I would suspect that larrabee would play a key role in them releasing a console in that time-frame. My biggest concern for not releasing a console then is simply engineering resources, but if Intel designs the whole thing then it'd probably be a whopper in terms of absolute screaming performance.



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Squilliam on 02 May 2009
Alby_da_Wolf said:

@Squilliam about your answer to kowenicki:
I totally agree: the only thing that MS, or Sony outside of Japan, for what it matters, could do to make Nintendo nervous is if they make them laugh too loud and spill their Champagne on their new Armani suits or make it go down the wrong way.  

Edit: anyhow the article quoted in the OP is a joke, right?  RIGHT? 

I suspect the recent "closet" statement from Sony was intended to be presented during a dinner/informal conference. The intention was to cause Nintendos executives to choke on their food at precisely the right moment during the keynote speech by a Sony executive.

Edit: I thought my reasoning was better in the little article that I wrote myself. But yeah there are many pros and cons whatever they do.

 



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Alby_da_Wolf on 02 May 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
This is FUD =/

I'm even sceptical of the rumored "slim 360" until next year. Jaspers barely show any reduction in motherboard components compared to Falcons... they might have to wait until they are able to merge the cpu and gpu on a single die.

I agree, and I'd add that I'm not an XB360 fan by any means, I don't even think it's beautiful, but it already looks slim enough to me anyway, come on, PS3 is huge (and quite ugly for my tastes), Wii is very slim and not having HDD even optionals helps it al lot about this, but XB360 isn't absolutely too big.

 



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richardhutnik on 02 May 2009
Squilliam said:
JaggedSac said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
This is FUD =/

I'm even sceptical of the rumored "slim 360" until next year. Jaspers barely show any reduction in motherboard components compared to Falcons... they might have to wait until they are able to merge the cpu and gpu on a single die.

I think the hard drive would be the biggest problem.  They would have to make a completely different set of hard drives.

 

The current HDD design dictates width, but it doesn't mean the consoles length or depth cannot be shortened some. Theres also a very obvious solution to this problem which is to make the HDD enclosure a two piece set where you can take the smaller piece out of the larger piece to fit it onto a slimline console.

 

Why does the current design dictate width?  Couldn't the harddrive be put on top of the thin system?

 



richardhutnik on 02 May 2009
point x said:
I like tetris

I like turtles!

 



txrattlesnake on 02 May 2009
Millennium said:
I honestly thought that a new XBox would be coming out in 2010, following Microsoft's addiction to the upgrade cycle. But there is one cold, hard reason that this cannot be the case: it's too close to that date, and there has been no announcement. If MS were planning a console release next year, they would have started to build hype for it by now. Any sensible console maker would.

We might see a new XBox in 2011, with hype starting in 2010, but this would be six years after the 360's release. That kind of longevity isn't earth-shattering by any stretch of the imagination, but it's certainly respectable. For all that I think Microsoft's influence on the industry has been poisonous, they seem to have at least come to their senses in this area, and that should be encouraged.

 

     I think there is still a lot more time between now and November 2010 remaining than there was between the announcement of the 360 and its release date.  When Halo 2 came out in November 2004, I don't think anyone had mentioned any plans for the 360 and I don't even think it had been announced when Jade Empire and Stranger's Wrath came out in early 2005.  The most anticipated xbox announcement at that time was Half-Life 2.