Cueil said: Akvod said: selnor said: Akvod said: @selnor But can you point out ANYTHING similar with this footage and the Chaos Theory footage? That footage was so awful. The music was such and obvious bourne rip off. There's no light and shadow. There was FIGHTING?! You're not supposed to be going toe to toe with bad guys unless you throw a flash bang (and proceed to slit all their throats) I thought X-box fans played and loved SC. How can anyone be happy that they took an existing, well established, vefly loved, high selling franchise to push their AC technology? =( People who do like AC have this and the sequel to look forward to. But what do Splinter Cell fans get to look forward to? Not MGS, not SC, not AC, but NOTHING. There's no game like SC now. An entire sub genre has been killed. I see your point about Bourne. It looks a rip off totally. But just because it's light and the stealth involves mingling in with the crowd does not mean it's different than mingling in the shadows. It's a good call IMO. SC was becoming stale, it's problem was majorly over the top linear levels. Fine for last gen, but it needed freedom so badly. The object interaction is a massive plus. In DA I wanted so much to use the scenery to my advantage but couldnt. Personally AC looks nothing like this. Apart from the crowds, AC does not have interaction like this at all.     They could have a lot of freedom with the L&S mechanics. In CT they did bring a fresh of breath air by changing the linear levels by adding multiple paths. They could have expanded by instead of having a bunch of linear paths (although what was cool is that if you infiltrate a base through one path, you could easily switch on to another), by having a incredibly open and big map. They added a variety of environments and encouraged you to play how you want (bash a door open and shoot with the shotgun attachment, or go for the launcher with non-lethal weapons and silent weapons). THAT is a breath of fresh air. They could have given you an even more customizeable inventory, and gotten ridden of the % system at the end, to truly encourage people to play how they want. ----------------------------------------- Completely removing EVERYTHING isn't a breath of fresh air. It isn't a CHANGE. It's a complete replacement of a game. It's like using the Splinter Cell name to make a racing game or something. It's absolutely ridiculous, and a SEVERE DISSERVICE to the original fans who built up this franchise's name. I can't believe they're abusing and using the SC name to push the crowd system they made with AC, and attract people who weren't a fan of the past 4 games, and the entire gameplay. I'm not moaning and groaning because they changed something, but because they destroyed everything. Please, anybody, point out something similar with CT and Convictions in terms of gameplay? Ubisoft still changed other aspects as well. Going for a more Bourne/Thriller type of story instead of the Technothriller stories they had with 1-3. Sam is now a younger man than he was in the third game. And the music has went from ambient, creepy, smooth spy music (Chaos Theory with the base), to the frenetic music like the Bourne movies. It's not a change =( They just replaced everything. After AC was shown they tossed the game from my understanding and started over.  The core idea of the game isn't so much changed as the tools you would have are diffrent.  What I don't understand though is why he would come in through the day and not have snuck in at night.  I'm excited to see what they have done with the game since starting back over.  edit:  That video is from 2006/7 so it's not a ripoff of anything except some of their in house concepts.  Considering it's been in development since 2005 I think it's a little retarded to call it a ripoff of games that just go released.

I don't mean rip off as in how Forbes said Harmonix ripped off Guitar Hero. I know they're both Ubisoft games. Didn't Montreal make AC too? I'm saying rip off as in they're creating a crowd stealth game with the Splinter Cell game. There's going to be 2 of them out now, and no L/S game. I don't have any evidence, nor did I look it up, but by common sense I'm guessing that Assassin's Creed. The first game with a completed crowd system, and a game that was released earlier than Convictions was in development earlier. I'll LOVE it if they tossed the whole game to make a game with similar game mechanics to the original games. However, I have little hope that they did. One of the biggest problems is that the devs haven't said anything for the past few years =/ I've lost a lot of respect for Montreal these days. AC sucked hard, and they killed one of the best stealth games (I think it's a shit load better than MGS).

This game is going to be awesome, I can understand some people would like the game to stay true to it's roots, but this game is going to be cool regardless, bring it on ubi.

Another Xbox 360 exclusive.

Awesome news people!

And suddenly the 360's holiday lineup is starting to look far more impressive.

OXM just teased that they will have info on the game in their next issue

what i dont get is why has conviction taken so long to get out the door if the 360 is so easy to program for?

Serious_frusting said: what i dont get is why has conviction taken so long to get out the door if the 360 is so easy to program for?

 

The delay has nothing to do with the 360 development, the delay was because ubi changed how they wanted to make the game.

Awesome news!

Splinter Cell is an amazing franchise.

Thank you Ubisoft and Microsoft!

So are there no Xbox fans who are upset at the death of an Xbox icon and mascot, along with the game that pushed the original Xbox? Are you guys really just that happy to get any exclusive? There's no going around it. The gameplay is completely different, there's nothing similar about it at all. This game isn't Splinter Cell =( I'm getting really depressed people, isn't there a single SC fan who's upset at this? Isn't anyone upset that Sam Fisher literally looks like a fucking emo now, instead of the dark bad ass he was?

 

I have had 3-4 posts saying the same exact thing, and the only conclusion I have is that either everyone here who posted never played the game or enjoyed it. How can you be excited for this game when you know it's not even going to be what it's name used to mean, but only a few old shitty ass clips?

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/3591052447

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/8611071286

The more pages you go back, the more negative it becomes. The forum is pretty empty now due to censorship, disgust, and lack of news/info.

Edit: By pages, I mean the entire forum's not the threads'.

first day purchase right here