w00t3d!!!!!! Fuck yea for Sam Fisher... time to kick some ass... hopefully they made the improvements they wanted and it kicks some ass.

 

edit:  It's f'n exclusive so I expect a much higher level of visuals than Assassin's Creed.  Also Ubisoft Montreal is awesome...

damnit I'm way to excited

Cueil said: Also Ubisoft Montreal is awesome...

I'm glad someone else shares this sentiment. Ubi Montreal is one of the finest producers of western-style "war" games in the world. AC, GR, SC... Those are some pretty great games in their respective genres.

 

@Akvod
It depends on what your into really. I'm more excited to play this than if they had kept the original gameplay. I think this is better.

So it really just depends on what sort of game you like.

Great Great news. This will be a great E3. :D

Awesome. It better be a bloody good game after all this time. LOL

I wanna see what it looks like now. It looked very good last time screenshots were released. Apparantly it's changed though see we shall see.

Convictions Gameplay   (One of the comments: this is NOT splinter cell. This is GTA with sam fisher)

Thankyou so much for this. I have never seen this before. This is 2006/07 right? That is incredible. The lighting and sky were awesome. Also noticed every person in public cast there own shadow. This looks very promising. Cant wait to see how it looks in 09.

Personally I think either Alan Wake, Heavy Rain or Splinter Cell Conviction will get GOTY. And one of these will DEFINATELY get graphics of 2009. Cant believe this video. This is exactly how I always wanted a stealth game. :)

 

@selnor

But can you point out ANYTHING similar with this footage and the Chaos Theory footage?

That footage was so awful. The music was such and obvious bourne rip off. There's no light and shadow. There was FIGHTING?! You're not supposed to be going toe to toe with bad guys unless you throw a flash bang (and proceed to slit all their throats)

I thought X-box fans played and loved SC. How can anyone be happy that they took an existing, well established, vefly loved, high selling franchise to push their AC technology? =(

People who do like AC have this and the sequel to look forward to. But what do Splinter Cell fans get to look forward to? Not MGS, not SC, not AC, but NOTHING.

There's no game like SC now. An entire sub genre has been killed.

Akvod said: @selnor But can you point out ANYTHING similar with this footage and the Chaos Theory footage? That footage was so awful. The music was such and obvious bourne rip off. There's no light and shadow. There was FIGHTING?! You're not supposed to be going toe to toe with bad guys unless you throw a flash bang (and proceed to slit all their throats) I thought X-box fans played and loved SC. How can anyone be happy that they took an existing, well established, vefly loved, high selling franchise to push their AC technology? =( People who do like AC have this and the sequel to look forward to. But what do Splinter Cell fans get to look forward to? Not MGS, not SC, not AC, but NOTHING. There's no game like SC now. An entire sub genre has been killed.

I see your point about Bourne. It looks a rip off totally. But just because it's light and the stealth involves mingling in with the crowd does not mean it's different than mingling in the shadows. It's a good call IMO. SC was becoming stale, it's problem was majorly over the top linear levels. Fine for last gen, but it needed freedom so badly. The object interaction is a massive plus. In DA I wanted so much to use the scenery to my advantage but couldnt.

Personally AC looks nothing like this. Apart from the crowds, AC does not have interaction like this at all.

 

selnor said: Akvod said: @selnor But can you point out ANYTHING similar with this footage and the Chaos Theory footage? That footage was so awful. The music was such and obvious bourne rip off. There's no light and shadow. There was FIGHTING?! You're not supposed to be going toe to toe with bad guys unless you throw a flash bang (and proceed to slit all their throats) I thought X-box fans played and loved SC. How can anyone be happy that they took an existing, well established, vefly loved, high selling franchise to push their AC technology? =( People who do like AC have this and the sequel to look forward to. But what do Splinter Cell fans get to look forward to? Not MGS, not SC, not AC, but NOTHING. There's no game like SC now. An entire sub genre has been killed. I see your point about Bourne. It looks a rip off totally. But just because it's light and the stealth involves mingling in with the crowd does not mean it's different than mingling in the shadows. It's a good call IMO. SC was becoming stale, it's problem was majorly over the top linear levels. Fine for last gen, but it needed freedom so badly. The object interaction is a massive plus. In DA I wanted so much to use the scenery to my advantage but couldnt. Personally AC looks nothing like this. Apart from the crowds, AC does not have interaction like this at all.

They could have a lot of freedom with the L&S mechanics. In CT they did bring a fresh of breath air by changing the linear levels by adding multiple paths. They could have expanded by instead of having a bunch of linear paths (although what was cool is that if you infiltrate a base through one path, you could easily switch on to another), by having a incredibly open and big map. They added a variety of environments and encouraged you to play how you want (bash a door open and shoot with the shotgun attachment, or go for the launcher with non-lethal weapons and silent weapons). THAT is a breath of fresh air. They could have given you an even more customizeable inventory, and gotten ridden of the % system at the end, to truly encourage people to play how they want. ----------------------------------------- Completely removing EVERYTHING isn't a breath of fresh air. It isn't a CHANGE. It's a complete replacement of a game. It's like using the Splinter Cell name to make a racing game or something. It's absolutely ridiculous, and a SEVERE DISSERVICE to the original fans who built up this franchise's name. I can't believe they're abusing and using the SC name to push the crowd system they made with AC, and attract people who weren't a fan of the past 4 games, and the entire gameplay. I'm not moaning and groaning because they changed something, but because they destroyed everything. Please, anybody, point out something similar with CT and Convictions in terms of gameplay? Ubisoft still changed other aspects as well. Going for a more Bourne/Thriller type of story instead of the Technothriller stories they had with 1-3. Sam is now a younger man than he was in the third game. And the music has went from ambient, creepy, smooth spy music (Chaos Theory with the base), to the frenetic music like the Bourne movies. It's not a change =( They just replaced everything.

Akvod said: selnor said: Akvod said: @selnor But can you point out ANYTHING similar with this footage and the Chaos Theory footage? That footage was so awful. The music was such and obvious bourne rip off. There's no light and shadow. There was FIGHTING?! You're not supposed to be going toe to toe with bad guys unless you throw a flash bang (and proceed to slit all their throats) I thought X-box fans played and loved SC. How can anyone be happy that they took an existing, well established, vefly loved, high selling franchise to push their AC technology? =( People who do like AC have this and the sequel to look forward to. But what do Splinter Cell fans get to look forward to? Not MGS, not SC, not AC, but NOTHING. There's no game like SC now. An entire sub genre has been killed. I see your point about Bourne. It looks a rip off totally. But just because it's light and the stealth involves mingling in with the crowd does not mean it's different than mingling in the shadows. It's a good call IMO. SC was becoming stale, it's problem was majorly over the top linear levels. Fine for last gen, but it needed freedom so badly. The object interaction is a massive plus. In DA I wanted so much to use the scenery to my advantage but couldnt. Personally AC looks nothing like this. Apart from the crowds, AC does not have interaction like this at all.     They could have a lot of freedom with the L&S mechanics. In CT they did bring a fresh of breath air by changing the linear levels by adding multiple paths. They could have expanded by instead of having a bunch of linear paths (although what was cool is that if you infiltrate a base through one path, you could easily switch on to another), by having a incredibly open and big map. They added a variety of environments and encouraged you to play how you want (bash a door open and shoot with the shotgun attachment, or go for the launcher with non-lethal weapons and silent weapons). THAT is a breath of fresh air. They could have given you an even more customizeable inventory, and gotten ridden of the % system at the end, to truly encourage people to play how they want. ----------------------------------------- Completely removing EVERYTHING isn't a breath of fresh air. It isn't a CHANGE. It's a complete replacement of a game. It's like using the Splinter Cell name to make a racing game or something. It's absolutely ridiculous, and a SEVERE DISSERVICE to the original fans who built up this franchise's name. I can't believe they're abusing and using the SC name to push the crowd system they made with AC, and attract people who weren't a fan of the past 4 games, and the entire gameplay. I'm not moaning and groaning because they changed something, but because they destroyed everything. Please, anybody, point out something similar with CT and Convictions in terms of gameplay? Ubisoft still changed other aspects as well. Going for a more Bourne/Thriller type of story instead of the Technothriller stories they had with 1-3. Sam is now a younger man than he was in the third game. And the music has went from ambient, creepy, smooth spy music (Chaos Theory with the base), to the frenetic music like the Bourne movies. It's not a change =( They just replaced everything.

After AC was shown they tossed the game from my understanding and started over.  The core idea of the game isn't so much changed as the tools you would have are diffrent.  What I don't understand though is why he would come in through the day and not have snuck in at night.  I'm excited to see what they have done with the game since starting back over.

 edit:  That video is from 2006/7 so it's not a ripoff of anything except some of their in house concepts.  Considering it's been in development since 2005 I think it's a little retarded to call it a ripoff of games that just go released.