Dgc1808 said:
Was this an attempt to make PSN look bad?? |
The Bad thing about PSN is that it cost Game Companies money to provide Content for you guys...So companies are losing money with PSN that's why XBL has so much more.......
Dgc1808 said:
Was this an attempt to make PSN look bad?? |
The Bad thing about PSN is that it cost Game Companies money to provide Content for you guys...So companies are losing money with PSN that's why XBL has so much more.......
Also...Chatting and Playing is still not avilable on PSN...that really blows..(Meaning Playing a Game and having a voice chat outside that game)
On XBL you can be in a CoD4 Match and connect to a voice channel with some one else and keep playing your game...and then switch back when your done
So basically what you're saying is, if MS offers the full Netflix catalog, they're garunteed to win? Wow..this Gerald guy is dumber than he sounds.
| Zizzla_Rachet said:
The Bad thing about PSN is that it cost Game Companies money to provide Content for you guys...So companies are losing money with PSN that's why XBL has so much more....... |
FUD much? If it cost game companies money they wouldn't release games on PSN.....but let's think about this for a second now, let's say you're right and companies are losing money, the PSN still gets plenty of demos (MvC2 this week!), plenty of games, plenty of DLC, etc....so even if the companies are losing money (they aren't), how does that affect you, the end user, on your overall experience with PSN? If the rumors are true that MS is (finally) gonna make Gold Live free so you can play for free online (as it should be) and make a new VIP Live for members that want extra stuff, then it goes to show you that PSN has improved significantly over these past 2 1/2 years.
| Zizzla_Rachet said: Also...Chatting and Playing is still not avilable on PSN...that really blows..(Meaning Playing a Game and having a voice chat outside that game) On XBL you can be in a CoD4 Match and connect to a voice channel with some one else and keep playing your game...and then switch back when your done |
True, one of the most requested features, it's coming though. Live is still better than PSN, you have to be blind or a PS3 fanboy or both to not see that, but PSN has been closing the gap significantly these past couple of years, you have to be blind or a 360 fanboy or both to not see that.
FilaBrasileiro said:
FUD much? If it cost game companies money they wouldn't release games on PSN.....but let's think about this for a second now, let's say you're right and companies are losing money, the PSN still gets plenty of demos (MvC2 this week!), plenty of games, plenty of DLC, etc....so even if the companies are losing money (they aren't), how does that affect you, the end user, on your overall experience with PSN? If the rumors are true that MS is (finally) gonna make Gold Live free so you can play for free online (as it should be) and make a new VIP Live for members that want extra stuff, then it goes to show you that PSN has improved significantly over these past 2 1/2 years.
True, one of the most requested features, it's coming though. Live is still better than PSN, you have to be blind or a PS3 fanboy or both to not see that, but PSN has been closing the gap significantly these past couple of years, you have to be blind or a 360 fanboy or both to not see that. |
FUD much? If it cost game companies money they wouldn't release games on PSN.....but let's think about this for a second now, let's say you're right and companies are losing money, the PSN still gets plenty of demos (MvC2 this week!), plenty of games, plenty of DLC, etc....so even if the companies are losing money (they aren't), how does that affect you, the end user, on your overall experience with PSN? If the rumors are true that MS is (finally) gonna make Gold Live free so you can play for free online (as it should be) and make a new VIP Live for members that want extra stuff, then it goes to show you that PSN has improved significantly over these past 2 1/2 years.
It seems you don't know much on the subject......
True, one of the most requested features, it's coming though. Live is still better than PSN, you have to be blind or a PS3 fanboy or both to not see that, but PSN has been closing the gap significantly these past couple of years, you have to be blind or a 360 fanboy or both to not see that.
So my Point is your point also?....Closing the gap?......errmmm Sure....
| Zizzla_Rachet said:
FUD much? If it cost game companies money they wouldn't release games on PSN.....but let's think about this for a second now, let's say you're right and companies are losing money, the PSN still gets plenty of demos (MvC2 this week!), plenty of games, plenty of DLC, etc....so even if the companies are losing money (they aren't), how does that affect you, the end user, on your overall experience with PSN? If the rumors are true that MS is (finally) gonna make Gold Live free so you can play for free online (as it should be) and make a new VIP Live for members that want extra stuff, then it goes to show you that PSN has improved significantly over these past 2 1/2 years.
It seems you don't know much on the subject......
True, one of the most requested features, it's coming though. Live is still better than PSN, you have to be blind or a PS3 fanboy or both to not see that, but PSN has been closing the gap significantly these past couple of years, you have to be blind or a 360 fanboy or both to not see that. So my Point is your point also?....Closing the gap?......errmmm Sure.... |
I know a lot more than you, that's for sure. Do you even own a PS3?
And PSN is not closing the gap? Are you fucking kidding me?
FilaBrasileiro said:
I know a lot more than you, that's for sure. Do you even own a PS3?
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Nope I do not Own a PS3....
And here you go this was posted by a PS3 owner......
Sony charges game publishers bandwith costs, 16cents per Gig. So it doesn't affect gamers like you and me.
Here's an article: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/694179/Sony-Charging-Publishers-to-Host-DLC-Uh-Oh.html
I didn't really think too much about this to have a solid defense/attack, but as a Sony fanboy, I say that this is better than having us pay for it.
I THINK, that the "tax" only applies to DLC/Demos after a month or so, as the first month is when millions of people will be downloading stuff.
Finally Sony is going to match the development costs for indie game developers, giving an incentive for them to release games on the PS3, rather than Xbox. So we will keep/attract the small indie games. Huge game developers like Activision only want to get as many people as possible, so they won't shy from releasing demos and such.
| Zizzla_Rachet said: Nope I do not Own a PS3.... And here you go this was posted by a PS3 owner...... Sony charges game publishers bandwith costs, 16cents per Gig. So it doesn't affect gamers like you and me. Here's an article: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/694179/Sony-Charging-Publishers-to-Host-DLC-Uh-Oh.html I didn't really think too much about this to have a solid defense/attack, but as a Sony fanboy, I say that this is better than having us pay for it. I THINK, that the "tax" only applies to DLC/Demos after a month or so, as the first month is when millions of people will be downloading stuff. Finally Sony is going to match the development costs for indie game developers, giving an incentive for them to release games on the PS3, rather than Xbox. So we will keep/attract the small indie games. Huge game developers like Activision only want to get as many people as possible, so they won't shy from releasing demos and such.
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Ok, WTF are you trying to say? I already knew all that and you just backed up my post.
Charging .16/GB does not affect the end user. Free products will not be charged bandwitdth after 60 days, premium products will be charged forever. This has been going on since Oct '08 and we still get demos and free stuff every week on PSN, obviously publishers think it's worth the cost. Bandwitdth is not free and Sony ain't gonna pay for other publisher's demos and free stuff.
And since you don't have a PS3, you don't know WTF you're talking about and you might just be trolling. You also don't know how much PSN has evolved over these past 2 1/2 years, let me tell you it's definitely closer in functionality to XBL than it was last year, let alone in 2006.
FilaBrasileiro said:
Ok, WTF are you trying to say? I already knew all that and you just backed up my post. Charging .16/GB does not affect the end user. Free products will not be charged bandwitdth after 60 days, premium products will be charged forever. This has been going on since Oct '08 and we still get demos and free stuff every week on PSN, obviously publishers think it's worth the cost. Bandwitdth is not free and Sony ain't gonna pay for other publisher's demos and free stuff. And since you don't have a PS3, you don't know WTF you're talking about and you might just be trolling. You also don't know how much PSN has evolved over these past 2 1/2 years, let me tell you it's definitely closer in functionality to XBL than it was last year, let alone in 2006. |
Here is what you said....
FUD much? If it cost game companies money they wouldn't release games on PSN.....but let's think about this for a second now, let's say you're right and companies are losing money, the PSN still gets plenty of demos (MvC2 this week!), plenty of games, plenty of DLC, etc....so even if the companies are losing money (they aren't), how does that affect you, the end user, on your overall experience with PSN? If the rumors are true that MS is (finally) gonna make Gold Live free so you can play for free online (as it should be) and make a new VIP Live for members that want extra stuff, then it goes to show you that PSN has improved significantly over these past 2 1/2 years.
And here is what the article i wanted you to Read said...Now do you see the Difference between you defending PSN and companies reporting about the things I brought up...Maybe you should try and find those FallOut 3 DLC's on the PSN...
It's going to be one of those days where every story seems like a it's a bad day for Sony... According to MTV Multiplayer, Sony is now charging publishers 16 cents per 1GB of content served as DLC on the PlayStation Network as of October 1, 2008.
That is major. I cannot stress enough how this could effect the amount of content available on the PlayStation 3. I don't know for sure why Sony is doing this, but I can make an educated guess: the PlayStation Network is free for users.
Bandwidth is NOT cheap. YouTube pulled in $500 million in revenue last year and didn't make a profit. Of course, YouTube has higher traffic than 99.9% of websites and services out there, but the rule of expensive bandwidth holds. Why do you think so many ISPs are beginning to throttle downloads and charge for overuse?
You might be saying, "16 cents is pretty cheap. What's the big deal?" Well, let's do some math:
1GB Game Demo downloaded 1 million times = .16 * 1 million = $160,000 to the publisher.
I think DLC packs will mostly be safe because they are paid, but we might see a price increase to account for bandwidth costs to the publisher. Free content like demos, however, will most likely slow down. Now, take a look at multiplatform games and a publisher's hypothetical thought process:
I can put my demo up on the Xbox 360 for free, but putting it up on for the PS3 will cost me money. In fact, the better my game is and the more people that download it, the more I'll have to pony up to Sony.
Clarification: Publishers will only rack up charges for free content during the first 60 days of life on the service. Paid content will be charged as long as it is live.
It's not a big leap at that point for a publisher to forgo a PS3 demo. "You get what you pay for..." I've said time and time again: I willingly pay for Xbox Live and deem it a valuable expense. I prefer Xbox Live to PSN for almost everything and I hope Sony finds a way to avoid hurting publishers.
Sony's company line, made in an email to MTV Multiplayer, is:
“Appreciate the opportunity to jump in here, but we respect the confidentiality of our business agreements with our publishing partners. Of course we work closely with them to bring their amazing content to our growing audience, and we are focused on ensuring we, and our publishing partners, have a viable platform for digital distribution. We foresee no change in the high quality or quantity of demos and games available on PSN.”
Answer me this:
1) Companies are not losing money, how the fuck is that so hard to understand. This is marketing dollars that will be spent anyways, and raise awareness of the game. It would actually be more expensive to put a demo disc on a magazine like they used to make. That money will be spent any ways. Do you even know what losing money is, instead of spending money?
2) How the fuck does that affect you as the end user?
3) How the fuck does that make PSN any worse if it's still getting content frequently?
4) You're making a big deal out of the .16/GB and going away from PSN service as a whole for the end user (fuck it you don't know how it is because you don't own a PS3). Should I start complaining about multiple discs that I buy for my 360 because MS charges royalties per disc?