akuma587 said:
Oh yeah, that's so controversial. I just totally stepped over the line there.
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It's not over the line. Just a retarded thing to say that makes you look like a fool.
You can say anything you want :)
Tyrannical said:
I sleep peacefully at night knowing they did waterboard important information out of these illegal foreign combatants. It's people like you that live in fantasy land law school that reminds me of Shakespeare's famous quote, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
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Your quote is a great example of how important lawyers are in a society.
http://www.spectacle.org/797/finkel.html
For example, one legal firm states:
"The first thing we do," said the character in Shakespeare's Henry VI, is "kill all the lawyers." Contrary to popular belief, the proposal was not designed to restore sanity to commercial life. Rather, it was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution -- thus underscoring the important role that lawyers can play in society.
(from Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP Firm Profile)
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
akuma587 said:
Oh yeah, that's so controversial. I just totally stepped over the line there.
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You kinda did...
I mean... Iraq death toll... less then 5,000
Vietnam Death toll over 50,000
Plus Iraq is totally winnable... I mean Obama doesn't even plan to leave until it is won.
Kasz216 said:
You kinda did... I mean... Iraq death toll... less then 5,000
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And we lost Vietnam
Adjusted for inflation, Vietnam probably actually cost us less money than Iraq. So in some ways, Vietnam was a better war. The human life toll isn't as high fortunately. Our credibility has probably taken a bigger hit though.
http://www.vietnamwar.com/
Fifty-eight thousand Americans lost their lives. The losses to the Vietnamese people were appalling. The financial cost to the United States comes to something over $150 billion dollars. Direct American involvement began in 1955 with the arrival of the first advisors. The first combat troops arrived in 1965 and we fought the war until the cease-fire of January 1973. To a whole new generation of young Americans today, it seems a story from the olden times.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
I'll be happy if Iraq turns out to be a war we ultimately win. I don't want it to disintegrate like Vietnam did. I don't benefit from that in any way whatsoever and it would just hurt everyone, especially the Iraqi people. I just think we wanted to get our dicks wet with another war and didn't realize what we were getting ourselves into, like we did with Vietnam.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: Adjusted for inflation, Vietnam probably actually cost us less money than Iraq. So in some ways, Vietnam was a better war. The human life toll isn't as high fortunately. Our credibility has probably taken a bigger hit though. |
150 billion adjusting for inflation equals $763,750,278,650.66.
So less. Yet i think the lost of life is kinda more important.
Kasz216 said:
150 billion adjusting for inflation equals $763,750,278,650.66.
So less. Yet i think the lost of life is kinda more important.
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Unless we are talking about healthcare right 
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: I'll be happy if Iraq turns out to be a war we ultimately win. I don't want it to disintegrate like Vietnam did. I don't benefit from that in any way whatsoever and it would just hurt everyone, especially the Iraqi people. I just think we wanted to get our dicks wet with another war and didn't realize what we were getting ourselves into, like we did with Vietnam. |
It wasn't that. It was just a complete lack of planning. Iraq had no reason to end up how it did. Except for an incredible lack of planning and a number of really stupid maneuvers as soon as they took over.
Vietnam was an unwinnable war because it was a groundwar with the chinese. In which we couldn't invade to far without worrying about provoking setting off a nuclear war.
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