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akuma587 on 25 April 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
Why is your county our of money?

How many county's in states with less entitlements are out of money? Texas out of money?

Have you even been to Texas?  Texas was having budget problems before the recession even started.  Our state legislature is half-retarded and our governor is a complete idiot.  They had to raise taxes across the board.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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TheRealMafoo on 25 April 2009

Moved to Texas in 1975, moved away in 1994.

So yea... I have been to Texas :)



TheRealMafoo on 25 April 2009

I would be curious to know... How are red states vs blue states doing economically?

If I had to guess, the red states are doing much better.



akuma587 on 25 April 2009

Now, Mafoo, you wouldn't just make blanket statements without any data to back up what you are saying would you?  I know you have never done that in the past, right?

This isn't their economy, but this is their unemployment rates.  I don't really see any significant correlations between red and blue states. Larger states on average have been hit the hardest.  That is a much more significant correlation.

There is also a much stronger correlation with unemployment and states where the real estate market was hit the hardest.  As a whole, the Southwest has been the least negatively effected.  Texas, for example, has seen a much lower drop in average home price than California, Florida, or Michigan, where the markets were essentially obliterated.

State    Jobless Rate    Change since start of recession    Difference from national rate   
Alabama 8.4 +4.7 +0.3
Alaska 8 +1.7 -0.1
Arizona 7.4 +3.2 -0.7
Arkansas 6.6 +1.1 -1.5
California 10.5 +4.6 +2.4
Colorado 7.2 +3.2 -0.9
Connecticut 7.4 +2.6 -0.7
Delaware 7.4 +3.9 -0.7
District of Columbia 9.9 +4.2 +1.8
Florida 9.4 +4.9 +1.3
Georgia 9.3 +4.8 +1.2
Hawaii 6.5 +3.4 -1.6
Idaho 6.8 +4.1 -1.3
Illinois 8.6 +3.3 +0.5
Indiana 9.4 +4.9 +1.3
Iowa 4.9 +1.1 -3.2
Kansas 5.9 +1.7 -2.2
Kentucky 9.2 +3.9 +1.1
Louisiana 5.7 +1.7 -2.4
Maine 8 +3.1 -0.1
Maryland 6.7 +3.1 -1.4
Massachusetts 7.8 +3.5 -0.3
Michigan 12 +4.6 +3.9
Minnesota 8.1 +3.4 0
Mississippi 9.1 +2.8 +1
Missouri 8.3 +3 +0.2
Montana 6 +2.8 -2.1
Nebraska 4.2 +1.4 -3.9
Nevada 10.1 +4.9 +2
New Hampshire 5.3 +1.9 -2.8
New Jersey 8.2 +4 +0.1
New Mexico 5.4 +2.2 -2.7
New York 7.8 +3.2 -0.3
North Carolina 10.7 +6 +2.6
North Dakota 4.3 +1.1 -3.8
Ohio 9.4 +3.6 +1.3
Oklahoma 5.5 +1.4 -2.6
Oregon 10.8 +5.4 +2.7
Pennsylvania 7.5 +3.1 -0.6
Rhode 10.5 +5.3 +2.4
South Carolina 11 +4.8 +2.9
South Dakota 4.6 +1.7 -3.5
Tennessee 9.1 +4.1 +1
Texas 6.5 +2.3 -1.6
Utah 5.1 +2.2 -3
Vermont 7 +3.1 -1.1
Virginia 6.6 +3.4 -1.5
Washington 8.4 +3.8 +0.3
West Virginia 6 +1.4 -2.1
Wisconsin 7.7 +2.9 -0.4
Wyoming 3.9 +0.8 -4.2


We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

TheRealMafoo on 25 April 2009

I sorted that list, and checked red vs blue (some purple states).

of the top 15 states, 11 were Red states. Of the bottom 10 states, 2 were Red.



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akuma587 on 25 April 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
I sorted that list, and checked red vs blue (some purple states).

of the top 15 states, 11 were Red states. Of the bottom 10 states, 2 were Red.

Are you counting red and blue states simply based on the most recent election?  That is an inherently flawed thing to do.  Florida, Indiana, and North Carolina are all pretty reliable red states at any time in the past 50 years other than this last election.  Same goes for Ohio and Nevada.  I also hope you aren't counting Washington D.C. as a separate state.

Texas, your star indicator, has actually become much more blue recently.  On a local and state level, Democrats have staged a major resurgence against Republicans.

And any one indicator doesn't take into account the regional effect of the recession.  New Mexico has become a reliably blue state, but it has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation.  Coincidentally, it is in the Southwest where the recession has been the least bad.  Both Arizona AND Texas have a higher unemployment rate than New Mexico and both went to McCain by a healthy margin.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

TheRealMafoo on 25 April 2009
akuma587 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
I sorted that list, and checked red vs blue (some purple states).

of the top 15 states, 11 were Red states. Of the bottom 10 states, 2 were Red.

Are you counting red and blue states simply based on the most recent election?  That is an inherently flawed thing to do.  Florida, Indiana, and North Carolina are all pretty reliable red states at any time in the past 50 years other than this last election.  Same goes for Ohio and Nevada.  I also hope you aren't counting Washington D.C. as a separate state.

Texas, your star indicator, has actually become much more blue recently.  On a local and state level, Democrats have staged a major resurgence against Republicans.

And any one indicator doesn't take into account the regional effect of the recession.  New Mexico has become a reliably blue state, but it has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation.  Coincidentally, it is in the Southwest where the recession has been the least bad.  Both Arizona AND Texas have a higher unemployment rate than New Mexico and both went to McCain by a healthy margin.

 

I took the average of the last 4 elections.

But no point in going on about this. I knew when I wrote it, that you would instantly come back with some trend to disprove it.

100 things probably entered your mind as to why those stats seem to be the way they are. None of them were remotely anything close to conservatism might work.

With you it's like religion. If I could come up with proof that god didn't exist, a very religious person would instantly start looking for reasons why I am wrong, and never consider that god actually doesn't exist. 

 



akuma587 on 25 April 2009

At least I came to that conclusion by actually using numbers. I don't recall you looking at any before you came to yours.  That's like claiming God exists because you believe in him.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

TheRealMafoo on 25 April 2009

odd dbl post



TheRealMafoo on 25 April 2009
akuma587 said:

At least I came to that conclusion by actually using numbers. I don't recall you looking at any before you came to yours.  That's like claiming God exists because you believe in him.

 

I didn't come to a conclusion. I asked a question and made a guess (that's what "if I had to guess" means)

But thanks to your numbers, my guess seems more right now then before.