I'd rather the game be a success and have Sony fanboys shut up. But that won't happen.

So in return... here is some fail.

What? LOL

Come on guys if GT5 hits the 5 millions it would be a great feat this gen. We can't compare with sale figures of last gen because the userbase is completely different!

A good example is GTA franchise, previous generation saw sales of 17.79M (GTA:SA), 14.20M (GTA:VC) and 11.60M (GTAIII). Now GTAIV is only at 5.56M and is the PS3 best selling game.

GT5:P is not doing very well too, considering it is massively bundled in Japan and that the game is only at 3 millions (while the only GT game on the PS3 yet).

Install base has NOTHING to do with sales, except a limit. If you only had 10 million consoles sold obviously you wouldn't sell more then 10 million of the same game.

Install base means nothing otherwise. Games which do steller, seem to do the same no matter the install base.

MGS2 - 7 million Early game for PS2 during the 20-30 million install base.

MGS3 - 4.5 million(including subsistance) During the 100 million install base, also widely accepted as the "best" MGS.

MGS4 - 4 million to date, on a 14 million install base at the time.

GT3 sold 15 million, and it released with PS2 basically. A basically no install base system at the time.

All GTs sell relatively the same, GT3 moreso because of bundling.

Also your idea that GT5p is selling bad is shameful. It is a demo. In fact GT4p only sold 1.4 million, while GT5p sold 3 million, only 400 thousand of which were bundles. Compared to other demos in the GT franchise it is selling much more. In fact it's SELLING AS A DEMO. If you released a halo demo no one would pay 40$ for that.(Actually strike that, people would, but not nearly in the same fashion). Halo name is big as a FPS, halo wars proved that.

GTG5 will sell more then halo 3, it's rediculous to think otherwise.

So what you're saying is that its rediculous to think that GT5 won't outsell 3/4 of its prequels?

Wow, strong words but weak logic.

But wishing a game to fail? Just to shut up the sony fanboys? People are working hard to make this game did you forgot that.  You are just being childish and you are taking them seriously. Let them be, logic fails them.

If you charge $40 for it, it's not a demo. Unless Halo ODST counts as a $40 demo.

I don't think it will probably by the end of this gen we will know.

Halo 3 will sell more LTD than GT 5 , PS3 has very limited Userbase and even a game with such wide appeal wont sell to as many people as in the past. Halo 3 will continue to sell steadily through generation, and by releasing ODST Microsoft will ensure that it sells for longer. (because there wont be halo 4 this gen)

All gta´s on ps2 come out before x-box, so it was "almost a ps2  exclusive". GTA 4 was released

simultaneously in 360/ps3 and 360 had ( and has ) a larger userbase.

GT4 prologue sold 1,36 m on ps2, less than a half of the 3 million of GT5 prologue on ps3.

Metal gear solid 4 sold approximately the same as  MGS2 and 3.

By these numbers GT5 can outsell Halo3.