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CommunistHater on 21 April 2009

Female Beauty Contest appreciates the difference between Man and Woman, and so does marriage.



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MrBubbles on 21 April 2009

eve was the product of god and adams homosexual relationship.



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Kasz216 on 21 April 2009
nojustno said:
HappySqurriel said:
nojustno said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
there is no excuse for being an ignorant idiot, people who dont like gay people are ignorant idiots, therefore, they fail, allways.

How does having a different definition of marriage mean that someone doesn't like gay people?

A large portion of people who disagree with gay marriage fully support the rights of adults to choose their own sexuality, and enter into any relationship (between consenting adults) that they choose to, but they see marriage as being far more than a wedding; and they see marriage as being a relationship which implicitly requires two people of the opposite sex.

typically, the most intollerant people in a gay marriage debate tend to be its supporters ...

 

Coming from someone who's against... just wow

 

Ask some black-supporters of gay marriage how they were treated in california after prop-8  ...

 

 

so now you're generalizing, wow just stop embarassing yourself

 

What?  It's true.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/newsandviews/2008/11/blackgay_prop_8_backlash.html#commentBlock


It didn't pass and black people got harrassed including gay black people.



WessleWoggle on 21 April 2009
CommunistHater said:
@WESSLE WOGLE

LOGIC does not somehow deduce what a definition for a word should be.

Women and Man can have exclusive clubs and organizations that forbid the other sex from joining. This is protected by LAW. WOMEN and MEN can therefore have a protected organization (marriage) that requires two different biological entities a woman and a man to join.

INTOLERANCE = Condemning for beliefs

Logic should decide the definition. Do you disagree?

Women and men can have exclusive clubs, I'm fine with that. Those are private clubs.

Marriage, though, should be open to all. Biological differences aren't really that important. Marriages aren't for making children, they're for tax benefits and things like that.

 



WessleWoggle on 21 April 2009
CommunistHater said:

Female Beauty Contest appreciates the difference between Man and Woman, and so does marriage.

 

 

But she does not appreciate the difference between a straight man and a gay man, or the difference between a straight girl and a gay girl.



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SciFiBoy on 21 April 2009
HappySqurriel said:

 

Would it be equal for Caucasian people to be able to declare themselves to be black to gain access to affirmative action or college scholarships?

 

 

query, when did i say i was in favour of affirmative action?



WessleWoggle on 21 April 2009
MrBubbles said:
eve was the product of god and adams homosexual relationship.

 

 

Actually, according to the Yezidi people, Adam was a hemaphrodite.

The Yezidi people think they are decendants of Adam and not Eve.



nojustno on 21 April 2009
Kasz216 said:
nojustno said:
HappySqurriel said:
nojustno said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
there is no excuse for being an ignorant idiot, people who dont like gay people are ignorant idiots, therefore, they fail, allways.

How does having a different definition of marriage mean that someone doesn't like gay people?

A large portion of people who disagree with gay marriage fully support the rights of adults to choose their own sexuality, and enter into any relationship (between consenting adults) that they choose to, but they see marriage as being far more than a wedding; and they see marriage as being a relationship which implicitly requires two people of the opposite sex.

typically, the most intollerant people in a gay marriage debate tend to be its supporters ...

 

Coming from someone who's against... just wow

 

Ask some black-supporters of gay marriage how they were treated in california after prop-8  ...

 

 

so now you're generalizing, wow just stop embarassing yourself

 

What?  It's true.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/newsandviews/2008/11/blackgay_prop_8_backlash.html#commentBlock


It didn't pass and black people got harrassed including gay black people.

 

Of course i know its true but he's acting like all gay people suddenly bashed black people while in fact it was a small amount, therefore generalization.




HappySqurriel on 21 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:

 

Would it be equal for Caucasian people to be able to declare themselves to be black to gain access to affirmative action or college scholarships?

 

 

query, when did i say i was in favour of affirmative action?

 

You didn't, but would it be "equal" for anyone to just claim another ethnic background or are some definitions inherent?

A lot of supporters of gay marriage simply don't understand that a large percentage of the people who oppose gay marriage are entirely willing to support full rights to homosexual couples under the law, but they believe that "Marriage" has a very special definition and are unwilling to compromise on that point. If you support full rights under the law but believe that the definition of "Marriage" is not arbitrary and can not be changed how are you intollerant?



SciFiBoy on 21 April 2009
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

query, when did i say i was in favour of affirmative action?

 

You didn't, but would it be "equal" for anyone to just claim another ethnic background or are some definitions inherent?

A lot of supporters of gay marriage simply don't understand that a large percentage of the people who oppose gay marriage are entirely willing to support full rights to homosexual couples under the law, but they believe that "Marriage" has a very special definition and are unwilling to compromise on that point. If you support full rights under the law but believe that the definition of "Marriage" is not arbitrary and can not be changed how are you intollerant?

marriage is a union between two people, is it not?

are gay people not people?

thats how i see it anyway.

you shouldnt need to claim a different ethnic background as you should get the same rights regardless.