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HappySqurriel on 21 April 2009
nojustno said:

Of course i know its true but he's acting like all gay people suddenly bashed black people while in fact it was a small amount, therefore generalization.

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.


 



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WessleWoggle on 21 April 2009
HappySqurriel said:
nojustno said:

Of course i know its true but he's acting like all gay people suddenly bashed black people while in fact it was a small amount, therefore generalization.

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

How is that possible? I see much more intolerance on the part of anti-gay people then pro-gay people.

 



nojustno on 21 April 2009
HappySqurriel said:
nojustno said:

Of course i know its true but he's acting like all gay people suddenly bashed black people while in fact it was a small amount, therefore generalization.

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

 

Well all I can say is that you're truly one of a kind sir and with that, goodnight.




MrBubbles on 21 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
MrBubbles said:
eve was the product of god and adams homosexual relationship.

 

 

Actually, according to the Yezidi people, Adam was a hemaphrodite.

The Yezidi people think they are decendants of Adam and not Eve.

 

wow...i just went and looked them up.(as i never heard of them before) 

"Before the roles of the sexes were determined, Adam and Eve quarreled about which of them provided the creative element in the begetting of children. Each stored their seed in a jar which was then sealed. When Eve's was opened it was full of insects and other unpleasant creatures, but inside Adam's jar was a beautiful boychild."

i wonder if the Jar counts as a parent



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nojustno on 21 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
HappySqurriel said:
nojustno said:

Of course i know its true but he's acting like all gay people suddenly bashed black people while in fact it was a small amount, therefore generalization.

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

How is that possible? I see much more intolerance on the part of anti-gay people then pro-gay people.

 

really, don't bother with people like him.

 




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HappySqurriel on 21 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

query, when did i say i was in favour of affirmative action?

 

You didn't, but would it be "equal" for anyone to just claim another ethnic background or are some definitions inherent?

A lot of supporters of gay marriage simply don't understand that a large percentage of the people who oppose gay marriage are entirely willing to support full rights to homosexual couples under the law, but they believe that "Marriage" has a very special definition and are unwilling to compromise on that point. If you support full rights under the law but believe that the definition of "Marriage" is not arbitrary and can not be changed how are you intollerant?

marriage is a union between two people, is it not?

are gay people not people?

thats how i see it anyway.

you shouldnt need to claim a different ethnic background as you should get the same rights regardless.

 

 

Many people would argue that marriage is a union between a man and a women ...

They aren't trying to prevent people from living their life the way they choose, having a ceremony to celebrate their relationship, or entering into a formal (legally binding) relationship ... what they are saying is that "Marriage" has a very specific definition and it requires two people of the opposite sex.

Most people who oppose gay marriage are not trying to deny anything to gay people, they are trying to protect something they see as being special and unique. Why would disagreeing about a definition mean that someone is intollerant?



SciFiBoy on 21 April 2009
HappySqurriel said:

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

 

Fact: Gay People Exist
Fact: they are human
Fact: humans are allowed to do things
Fact: one of the things humans are allowed to do is to get married
Fact: 1+1+1+1= 4

if you have a counter to these facts, which is not ignorant, then i would love to hear it, as im not aware of any.



Kasz216 on 21 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

 

Fact: Gay People Exist
Fact: they are human
Fact: humans are allowed to do things
Fact: one of the things humans are allowed to do is to get married
Fact: 1+1+1+1= 4

if you have a counter to these facts, which is not ignorant, then i would love to hear it, as im not aware of any.

Well the same logic you use here would seem to indicate that it's wrong to make it so that guys can't enter a ladies room to use the bathroom.

Or play in womens sports or any other sort of thing.

Or that a co-ed sports team could have all guys.

Some things are dependent on sex.  Whether that is right or not... who can say.



HappySqurriel on 21 April 2009
nojustno said:
WessleWoggle said:
HappySqurriel said:
nojustno said:

Of course i know its true but he's acting like all gay people suddenly bashed black people while in fact it was a small amount, therefore generalization.

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

How is that possible? I see much more intolerance on the part of anti-gay people then pro-gay people.

 

really, don't bother with people like him.

 

I find your comments interesting because you haven't successfully argued anything ...

Personally, I'm neither for or against gay marriage, but I have noticed a pattern that people who oppose gay marriage can typically forumlate well thought out arguments and gay marriage supporters reply by calling them intollerant. I have never even seen an argument that explains why "Marriage" was a right, and I have yet to see anyone explain how having a different point of view was immediately intollerant.

 



HappySqurriel on 21 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:

I never generalized and made any claim that "All" or "most" supporters of gay marriage were intollerant, but I have seen more racist and intollerant rants from gay marriage supporters than I have ever seen from people who oppose it ...

I'm not religious at all and it doesn't impact me directly, but I have been in crowds of people where if you changed "Evangelical Christian" to "Jew" you'd feel like you were in Germany in the 1930's. For people who preach so heavily of tolerance and acceptance you'd think that gay marriage supporters would try to understand the arguments against it without resorting to stereotypes and scapegoating.

 

 

Fact: Gay People Exist
Fact: they are human
Fact: humans are allowed to do things
Fact: one of the things humans are allowed to do is to get married
Fact: 1+1+1+1= 4

if you have a counter to these facts, which is not ignorant, then i would love to hear it, as im not aware of any.

Fact: Oranges exist
Fact: They are living Organisms
Fact: living organisms can do things
Fact: one of these things living organisms can do is to talk

Therefore: Oranges can talk?

 

Your argument is a non-sequitur ...