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gergroy said:
I love how people like to talk about american politics on an international forum geared towards video games.

I must ask though, why are we americans the only ones that bring up politics. I don't think i have ever seen a thread on british politics or any other country for that matter.

I also must ask how much you people from other countries actually care about our politics?

There are plenty of those threads, just less users that get involved in them as their country's populations are much smaller and thus less represented on the site.

And if anything, people in many European countries and other parts of the world are probably MORE active and MORE informed about their government than people here in America.  The average person can more easily tell you who won on the last season of American Idol before they could tell you who the majority leader in the Senate or Congress is, and sometimes even THEIR OWN senators.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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gergroy said:
I love how people like to talk about american politics on an international forum geared towards video games.

I must ask though, why are we americans the only ones that bring up politics. I don't think i have ever seen a thread on british politics or any other country for that matter.

I also must ask how much you people from other countries actually care about our politics?

That is why the UK is socialistic.  ....zing....  lol

And @ Damkira, a real American is one who strives to make it better, no matter the cost.  I think more people here should read their 1770s and 1860s American history more.



Yeah, but this is doing something radical for what you believe is right. What if I believed that the only way to save America was to kill a certain race or ethnicity group? What if it was viewed as necessary, "no matter the cost?"

No person can claim to love a country and being a "real" citizen of their country when they're actually suggesting leaving the country. Just immigrate like millions of other people do who aren't satisfied with their country. And who in the 1860s was trying to make the country better? Was it the south who seceded and support slavery, which nowadays is viewed as highly immoral? Or the north who was against slavery and wanted to preserve the union (and is responsible for the country being together today)?

It's not even worth arguing with you because you're just trolling most of the time.



 

 

I don't even feel the need to call people like Halogamer out for being hypocrites. They make themselves look like complete fools without any help from me whatsoever.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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I'm waiting for the first big disagreement in the EU, and one or more of the states threatens to leave. I don't think the EU would let them.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

MontanaHatchet said:
Yeah, but this is doing something radical for what you believe is right. What if I believed that the only way to save America was to kill a certain race or ethnicity group? What if it was viewed as necessary, "no matter the cost?"

No person can claim to love a country and being a "real" citizen of their country when they're actually suggesting leaving the country. Just immigrate like millions of other people do who aren't satisfied with their country. And who in the 1860s was trying to make the country better? Was it the south who seceded and support slavery, which nowadays is viewed as highly immoral? Ever hear of state's rights? Or the north who was against slavery and wanted to preserve the union (and is responsible for the country being together today)? This is true and I have never been for the South in the Civil War.  Read my OP for a change. I am referring to here and now.

It's not even worth arguing with you because you're just trolling most of the time. If all of my posts since Fall 2007 were troll comments why would I even be here still?  Think about it...

 

 



Its laughable how you can deride the Civil War and run to the rescue of states rights in the same sentence.

You know who has historically been the first sovereign to take away people's rights? The states. You know who has historically been the biggest advocate of civil liberties via the Supreme Court? The federal government.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
Its laughable how you can deride the Civil War and run to the rescue of states rights in the same sentence.

You know who has historically been the first sovereign to take away people's rights? The states. You know who has historically been the biggest advocate of civil liberties via the Supreme Court? The federal government.

McCulloch v. Maryland, Dred Scott v. Sandford, Plessy v. Ferguson, DC Gun Ban only recently overturned by Heller vs DC, say hi.

Fed gov't and SC are separate entities separated by checks and balances.  Essentially the feds can lobby and comment about what the SC should do all they want but the 9 Justices make up their minds on their own w/o executive/legis interference.



Do you (OP) honestly believe what you are saying?
This is getting ridiculous.

I'm absolutely serious. Take a government class, economics, something.
You clearly have no idea what you are stating.

EDIT: If that seemed too harsh I apologize. Seriously though, the conservative movement in this country has gone insane. You lost an election roughly 6 months ago. That's it. Where were you when our country's values were being torn apart by Bush for 8 years?