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MrBubbles on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
Jackson50 said:
SciFiBoy said:the other guy slapped a woman and then hit her with a baton, she only swore at him, dont really see the justification.

 

The backhand is understandable and possibly justifiable. Immediately before he backhanded her, she moved towards him quickly and seemingly agressively. Striking her with the truncheon, however, was not justified.

 

he should just have pushed her away (gently if possible) backhanding her is more offensive than defensive imo.

 

he tried pushing her away...it didnt work...she continued to move agressively towards him.



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SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
MrBubbles said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

i think you an i both saw the videos from different views or something, im not really intrested in stating my view over and over again for you, please just refer to my other posts.

 

 

if you quit ignoring what was said, you would realize how rediculous your comments are and you would stop repeating them and have an actual discussion.  talking to you is about as bad as trying to have a discussion with that seal freak.  both of you continuously ignore everything and just repeat your deluded view over and over again.  these people were not beat. a hit and push are not a beating.  i showed posted a video with real police brutality where they beat someone.   someone repeatedly trying to get away from an agressive person and lashes out in self defense using more serious means of defense because the person keeps coming at them is not a beating.

 

i dont think any of my comments are riddiculous...

something being less bad, doesent mean its ok.



SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
Tyrannical said:
Jackson50 said:
SciFiBoy said:the other guy slapped a woman and then hit her with a baton, she only swore at him, dont really see the justification.

 

The backhand is understandable and possibly justifiable. Immediately before he backhanded her, she moved towards him quickly and seemingly agressively. Striking her with the truncheon, however, was not justified.

 

 

she moved towards him quickly and seemingly agressively

That earned her a strike with the truncheon. She should have been arrested at that point.

 

thats not justification to use the truncheon, arresting her maybe, but attacking her?



SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
MrBubbles said:

 

he tried pushing her away...it didnt work...she continued to move agressively towards him.

 

hes a policeman, if he felt he was being assulted, the proper course of action would have been to arrest her.



Tyrannical on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:

 

he tried pushing her away...it didnt work...she continued to move agressively towards him.

 

hes a policeman, if he felt he was being assulted, the proper course of action would have been to arrest her.

 

 No, if he thought he was being assaulted, the proper course of action is a truncheon. Or a tazer.



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 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

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SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
Tyrannical said:
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:

 

he tried pushing her away...it didnt work...she continued to move agressively towards him.

 

hes a policeman, if he felt he was being assulted, the proper course of action would have been to arrest her.

 

 No, if he thought he was being assaulted, the proper course of action is a truncheon. Or a tazer.

 

well, he was never assulted though was he, he just thought he might be, the best response to that would be an arrest, violence is only to be used by the police in extreme case, this wasnt one imo.



halogamer1989 on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
halogamer1989 said:
I don't know if he was pushed but a policeman has the right to defend himself by force to the death if threatened, verbally and esp physically. Those Brits need to stop fucking w/ their officials.

 

the guy who died, didnt appear to be doing anything other than walk past the police

the women swore at the guy, but thats not illegal here, in both cases, the police reaction was extreme

they werent f***ing with the officials, they were protesters, i think some of you would do well to look up protester in the dictionary

i dont really think that being sworn at, should be seen as enough reason to beat someone, these are officials, not schoolyard bullys were talking about.

to clarify, im not attacking all police, just the few idiots who think that they can beat protesters without good reason.

Let me quote John Adams per the Boston Massacre trial: "A sentry's [police officer's] post is his castle.  To attack it by English law is illegal."  I think there was a little more than cursing going on if you catch my drift.

 



SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
halogamer1989 said:
SciFiBoy said:
halogamer1989 said:
I don't know if he was pushed but a policeman has the right to defend himself by force to the death if threatened, verbally and esp physically. Those Brits need to stop fucking w/ their officials.

 

the guy who died, didnt appear to be doing anything other than walk past the police

the women swore at the guy, but thats not illegal here, in both cases, the police reaction was extreme

they werent f***ing with the officials, they were protesters, i think some of you would do well to look up protester in the dictionary

i dont really think that being sworn at, should be seen as enough reason to beat someone, these are officials, not schoolyard bullys were talking about.

to clarify, im not attacking all police, just the few idiots who think that they can beat protesters without good reason.

Let me quote John Adams per the Boston Massacre trial: "A sentry's [police officer's] post is his castle.  To attack it by English law is illegal."  I think there was a little more than cursing going on if you catch my drift.

 

 

well, there didnt seem to be anything that warranted her being attacked like that imo.



halogamer1989 on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
halogamer1989 said:
SciFiBoy said:
halogamer1989 said:
I don't know if he was pushed but a policeman has the right to defend himself by force to the death if threatened, verbally and esp physically. Those Brits need to stop fucking w/ their officials.

 

the guy who died, didnt appear to be doing anything other than walk past the police

the women swore at the guy, but thats not illegal here, in both cases, the police reaction was extreme

they werent f***ing with the officials, they were protesters, i think some of you would do well to look up protester in the dictionary

i dont really think that being sworn at, should be seen as enough reason to beat someone, these are officials, not schoolyard bullys were talking about.

to clarify, im not attacking all police, just the few idiots who think that they can beat protesters without good reason.

Let me quote John Adams per the Boston Massacre trial: "A sentry's [police officer's] post is his castle.  To attack it by English law is illegal."  I think there was a little more than cursing going on if you catch my drift.

 

 

well, there didnt seem to be anything that warranted her being attacked like that imo.

Maybe not on the surface but think about it in context.  I'm sure there were a bunch of hyped up, "We need to defend our rights, bro" type of people present.  This ultimately leads to a crowd going after the target full steam, ie "Let's get those pigs" and cursing, rushing barricades, and more.  I believe in this situation you would fear for your life if you were outnumbered which they were.  MP5 ammo only lasts for so long and as many clips.  This is exactly like the Boston situation.

 



Tyrannical on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:

 

well, he was never assulted though was he, he just thought he might be, the best response to that would be an arrest, violence is only to be used by the police in extreme case, this wasnt one imo.

 

 How much jail time should the protestor get for assualting the police officer (the push) and disobeying a lawful police order? I vote six months jail time.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire