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Jordahn on 07 April 2009
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
RPG said:
See nothing wrong with that statement considering it is true. What I do mind is people trying to make this into a negative, some people on this forum are beyond pathetic.

 

I think this thread is largely a product of fear at what the future holds.  That's why people can hate so much a perfectly legitimate statement indicating Sony's huge capability to produce exclusive games.  That's what he was getting at: size of studios obviously translates into games over time, and many of Sony's studios are known to be extremely skilled.  Not surprising that 2/3 of the people here just don't like to here that!

 

You make a good point.  Let me make clear that there are so many great games this gen that even with owning all consoles you won't have time to play all of them because of lack of time.  SONY is already offering a lot to gamers as it is.  And because of it's studio size and of recent game announcements and development, SONY software offerings doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon.  Some people here are living under the out-of-sight-out-of-mind mentality because it seems they they are purposely denying themself the opportunity to potentially enjoying something by making sad excuses.  This whole scenario shouldn't be a problem with anyone in their right frame of mind.



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Jordahn on 07 April 2009
sieanr said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
RPG said:
See nothing wrong with that statement considering it is true. What I do mind is people trying to make this into a negative, some people on this forum are beyond pathetic.

 

I think this thread is largely a product of fear at what the future holds.  That's why people can hate so much a perfectly legitimate statement indicating Sony's huge capability to produce exclusive games.  That's what Koller was getting at: size of studios obviously translates into games over time.  Not surprising that some people here just don't like to hear it!

So you're sayin that Nintendo fans are afraid of Sony?

If anything its payback for the last two gens when Sony fans constantly tore down the N64 and GC. Paybacks a bitch, so to speak.

Nintendo fanboys are afraid of SONY.  Nintendo fans (such as myself) give credit where it's due.  And only fanboys delight and employ payback.



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superchunk on 07 April 2009

I don't want to read 4 pages of stuff, so my comment is this.

If Sony's 1st and 2nd party base is so much bigger, by be extension better, than MS and Nintendo combined, then why is it Nintendo is the only company that can carry their entire company solely of their software?

Why is it Nintendo made more profits from gaming than MS and/or Sony for every single year any of them has ever made video games?

Why is it Nintendo, who makes games on at most 2 platforms, is only 2nd to EA in publishing when EA makes games on every single possible platform there is to be found?

Why is it Nintendo never has to wonder if their game will be a million seller? Its usually will their game break 3m. 1m is almost a certainty.

More does not equate to better. PS1 and PS2 did not become the best selling home consoles of their times (and all time) because Sony makes great games. They sold so well because Sony worked very well with 3rd parties and retained a TON of great exclusives.

On the other hand, Wii is a massive success and will easily claim the crown from PS2 almost solely on Nintendo's software as most 3rd parties have only just begun to actually put forth solid efforts.

There is no better software maker than Nintendo. Its multiple decades of massive hits and record breaking titles prove this beyond a doubt.



ph4nt on 07 April 2009

Congratulations Sony for having more developers than Nintendo and Microsoft combined, now please go find some GOOD developers.



Ninlenbox on 07 April 2009

lets see nintendo seels millions in each game cause THEY ARE ALL CASUAL GAMES! AND THATS WHAT THE WII HAS BECOME CASUAL! ITS A BUNCH OF MINI GAMES, OR EXERCISE GAMES!.......seriously wiifit,wiiplay,wiimusic, of course there gonna seel. that is such a dumb comment. so because wiifit sells better than all sony games is better? um no. and i do love nintendo first party games just not any more.



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mai on 07 April 2009
CGI-Quality said:
ph4nt said:
Congratulations Sony for having more developers than Nintendo and Microsoft combined, now please go find some GOOD developers.

Yea, because Naughty Dog, santa Monica, Polyphony Digital, Guerrilla Games, Insomniac, etc, etc....suck at making games. Who woulda thought...

 

Exclude Guirella Games from the list and you post makes perfect sense.



RPG on 07 April 2009
ph4nt said:
Congratulations Sony for having more developers than Nintendo and Microsoft combined, now please go find some GOOD developers.

 

Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, ok ill give you Team ICO but the former 2 are not good.......REALLY?



 

Ninlenbox on 07 April 2009

oh god stop ur hating to GG games and the masterful killzone! then exclude nintendo cause they are after all makers of wii music,fit,play, and all those crappy casual games!



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psrock on 07 April 2009

Why are some of you so defensive? the guy did not insult your beloved Nintendo. Yes, for you Nintendo is God, they make the best games, but that's your opinion.

I blame the PS2 FOR SUCH HATE, it was so dominant that even though other console might outsell it, they can never reach its supremacy.



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Jordahn on 07 April 2009

superchunk said:
I don't want to read 4 pages of stuff, so my comment is this.

If Sony's 1st and 2nd party base is so much bigger, by be extension better, than MS and Nintendo combined, then why is it Nintendo is the only company that can carry their entire company solely of their software?

Who's to say that both SONY and Microsoft cannot do this?  If the PSOne and PSTwo had switched position with the N64 and GC respectfully, could SONY be as successful?  Hard to say, and we'll never know.  But the PS3 is in third this gen, and it's 1st/2nd offering have been for the most part good to SONY and the PS3.

Why is it Nintendo made more profits from gaming than MS and/or Sony for every single year any of them has ever made video games?

I would suspect from the reports of 3rd parties, developing for the "HD" consoles are more expensive.  So I can see it applied to SONY and Microsoft as well.

Why is it Nintendo, who makes games on at most 2 platforms, is only 2nd to EA in publishing when EA makes games on every single possible platform there is to be found?

Just narrowing this to just "publishing" will not paint a more accurate big picture scenario.

Why is it Nintendo never has to wonder if their game will be a million seller? Its usually will their game break 3m. 1m is almost a certainty.

Most of the time, larger userbase help larger software sales.

More does not equate to better. PS1 and PS2 did not become the best selling home consoles of their times (and all time) because Sony makes great games. They sold so well because Sony worked very well with 3rd parties and retained a TON of great exclusives.

No one legit ever said that more always meant quality.

On the other hand, Wii is a massive success and will easily claim the crown from PS2 almost solely on Nintendo's software as most 3rd parties have only just begun to actually put forth solid efforts.

There is no better software maker than Nintendo. Its multiple decades of massive hits and record breaking titles prove this beyond a doubt.

Nintendo is an awesome software maker.  Nuff said.

 

 



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