mrstickball said:
Spacing helps, FYI.
Your referring to predestination. Yes, 5-point Calvinists believe in that, but the Muslim faith believed it much earlier in history than when the Calvinist movement started....Calvinism has been around for under 300 years, while Islam has been around for over 1,300.
As for the question of God revealing himself to everyone: We (Christians, at least) believe that God revealed himself to us through Jesus Christ. Of course, he got murdered for claiming that, and there are many people out there that love disproving that Jesus didn't even exist, despite the evidence to the contrary. Christians believe that the source of the issue of why God doesn't magically come out of the clouds has to do with our rejection of God, and the fact that God is bound by laws that we've rejected, and thrown in his face.
Otherwise, I agree with a lot of your later statements. Man is intrinsicly evil, and uses whatever he can for his own gain. The difference is that Christians, at least, seek to curb that evil and make the person better, by following the example of Christ - the perfect man. Few can argue that if everyone had the morality and value system of the NT Christ, the world would be a worse place.
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sorry, my firefox with no script tends to shove everything together. I fixed it.
That doesn't actually answer any questions though. If a person earnestly seeks god for over twenty years, does so in numerous branches of christianity, judaism, islam, eastern religions, spends more than twenty years praying to be shown truth, and be shown nothing except that religions are bunk, and the holy books even bunkier (if that's a word). If god "wants" people in his life and yet refuses to reveal himself to the majority of the world, and the people he doesn't reveal himself to are going to be punished for his hiding, what does that say about the man? I mean do you really believe that only the people who are now christians were actually seeking god? And you don't think it's fishy that the people seeking him all seem to share geographic location? I guess the people of bosnia could care less about religious truth, and don't think too much about it. They only found allah.
I don't think man is intrinsically evil, I think that is a terrible view. I think man is intrisically flawed for the world we are trying to create. We aren't built to create massive, peaceful world civilizations. It is genetically built into our brains through millions of years of survival to form groups, procreate, grab as much as we can for status and pleasure, and conquer other groups. But I think we inherently also have the ability for kindness and empathy, genetically we are pre-disposed towards good things too. Our biggest advantage is our ability to understand this, to look inside ourselves something the vast majority of animals are incapable of. Our self awareness grants us the ability to resist and overcome our xenophobic, us vs them mentality, and our desire for status, power and to be the alpha in our pack. The world we are trying to live in now is not the savage world we grew up in, but we still retain the same tribal, and often animal mentalities that got us this far. But I do not see this as "evil" though, no more than I see a wolf that preys on a wounded lamb as being "evil". But the difference between us and the wolf, is that we no longer need to prey on the weak in order to survive.