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blaydcor on 03 April 2009

I swear we just had this same thread a few weeks ago, I remember getting into a lengthy debate over Ultimecia with Khuutra in it.



Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.

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Khuutra on 03 April 2009

Mithos was pretty terrible.

What were we arguing about, blaydcor? I forget.



hatmoza 2.0 on 03 April 2009
Soriku said:
hatmoza 2.0 said:
Soriku said:

Necron appeared because Kuja destroyed the crystal (which IIRC can destroy life because it was a life source? Or either destroy that one tree. I don't remember exactly but it was something along this lines.) so Necron assumed that everyone didn't really care about the world anymore so he wanted to return the world back to zero. So yes, he did make sense in appearing. The crystal WAS important. Necron then was defeated and said he'd come back as long as there are people who want to destroy the world.

@hatmoza

Kuja was the second to last boss.

 

 True, but he wasnt the face of evil throughout the game like Kuja was

Thats like saying Sephiroth wasnt the villian in FF VII . Jenova was (which is ironcally true)

 

At least Sephiroth was the final boss. Jenova wasn't, and Necron was.

Hold on hold on !! I had to come back to this !!

Sephiroth is Jenova ! You never actually see him in the game . All you see is Jenova in the shape of Sephiroth . Why do you think you always had a Jenova fight everytime you bumped into him ? Read it up , something about Sephiroth over powering Jenova and manipulating it however he wanted .

 



blaydcor on 03 April 2009

I think it was about Ultimecia's apparent lameness as a villain versus the perceivable depth she could have if you viewed her as Rhinoa many years down the line; basically you pontificated lengthily on various "Ultimecia theories" which lent her complexity and depth as a character in response to me saying she was a lame villain, with us ultimately concurring that she really wasn't that great of an archvillain



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Khuutra on 03 April 2009

Man screw Ultimecia

I just

That theory made her good, but nooooo.

However, she wasn't an out-of-nowhere like Necron. They started alluding to her starting on Disk 2.



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frictionini on 03 April 2009

Grandia 3. That stupid brother of the female protagonist.



 

g-value on 03 April 2009
frictionini said:
Grandia 3. That stupid brother of the female protagonist.

 

 The final battle against him was epic though.



hatmoza 2.0 on 03 April 2009
blaydcor said:
I think it was about Ultimecia's apparent lameness as a villain versus the perceivable depth she could have if you viewed her as Rhinoa many years down the line; basically you pontificated lengthily on various "Ultimecia theories" which lent her complexity and depth as a character in response to me saying she was a lame villain, with us ultimately concurring that she really wasn't that great of an archvillain

 

 I dont know about Ultemecia being lame , but she scared the living shit out of me.



Khuutra on 03 April 2009
Soriku said:

Btw, I like Ultemecia, but she's the toughest final boss ever!

You really have to play more JRPGs.



g-value on 03 April 2009
Soriku said:
Khuutra said:
Soriku said:

Btw, I like Ultemecia, but she's the toughest final boss ever!

You really have to play more JRPGs.

 

I've played tons. She's still the hardest.

What tougher RPGs would you recommend?

Nyx in Persona 3.