If you would stop to troll i never said shit about auto aim,the aiming is fine i played ultra realistic games and i never had a problem.

ArmA compared to KZ2 is like comparing Wii Sports to MLB09,a sport sim.

Ah yes.  If you said it, it must be true. 

You actually think KZ2 is PS3/360 Graphical high point? So the PS3 was a waste if it got maxed out this fast? Jeez.

Online is dedicated Servers,360 also has dedicated servers.

The Physics are not that great,Alan Wake has better physics.

I agree about 7.1.

It has a different control style than other games.  It's a different game.  Stop acting like the game is broken because you didn't enjoy the controls.  Anyone who played the game (Beat it's Single player and maybe put a solid amount of time online) would know you will grow very accustomed to the control style.  When I play a 'new' game,  I don't expect it to play just like another game that seems similar to it.

And if your post history means anything,  It's really not surprising in the slightest that you magically had an issue with KZ2's controls that made it unplayable.

the physics of Killzone are some of the best; look at my sig.

I...DO....NOT....MIND.....THE.....CONTROLS.....GET......THAT.....STRAIGHT.....READ.....ITS....THE.......DELAY......

AND......HALF.....A...CLIP....IS.....WHAT.....KILLZ....THE.....GAME...WHEN...ITS.....SUPPOSED....TO.....BE.....

"REALISTIC".

God what part dont you guys get.

360 or PS3 won't easily surpass Killzone 2 in graphics

Do I necessarily believe it's the graphical high point?  No.  Do I think that this statement is very poorly worded?  Yes.  The graphics will improve over time, a bit. (As developers get more comfortable with the system). 

With that being said,  the 360 is going on it's 4th year on the market.  If you think the graphics of ANY new game coming out for it are going to 'easily' surpass what is currently the best graphics on either console?   You're an idiot.    The differences will be negligible and hardly will 'easily' surpass anything. 

This is ESPECIALLY true for the 360.  A system which is known to be 'simple' to develop for (And has been from day one) and is a full year older.  The PS3 actually stands a better chance of noticeable improvement because of developers finally getting comfortable with the architecture and better dev kits.

And what 360 game at this juncture (Or in the future) appears to 'easily'  surpass KZ2 in the graphics department?  Alan Wake?  (We haven't even looked at 360 Screenshots yet).  

Time will tell,  I bet KZ2 stands for quite sometime as the graphical champion of FPS on the consoles.

There has been proven to be no more of a delay than several other shooters in KZ2.  The way the game aims is different though.    And Garnett,  half a clip is not necessary to kill anybody if you're hitting where you're supposed to be hitting.  Any gun is almost a one hit kill if you hit the head. 

The only guys that might take 'half a clip' to kill.  Is an Assault class(Which assuredly you didn't even play against in the limited time you played the game).  

And who said that KZ2 is the pinnacle of realistic shooter games?  It looks realistic, yes.   But it's still a video game.

Im gonna make it easer to help us debate.

1.I dont really play alot of shooters on consoles cause there usually waterdown.

2.You just said its hard enough to hit someone in KZ2 now you want me to pull off headshots with all weapons?

3.PS3 fans have been saying KZ2 is supposed to be realistic with its delays and its aiming,which is BS imo.

4.I love the KZ2 engine,and yes KZ2 is better than Gears of War 2,i hate gears :p