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JaggedSac on 30 March 2009

LOL. I need to start selling these damn things in the US. There has to be many more fucks dumb enough to buy these things.



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HappySqurriel on 30 March 2009
vlad321 said:

It's not "perfect," it's random particles with their own properties which react in a certain way all the time.  Also in quatum physics you learn that there really is such a thing as complte randomness, so no, it's not perfect.

 

From a mathematical perspective, with an understanding of how imperfect all are algroithms are that demonstrate randomness are something that is completely random seems amazingly perfect to me ... I'm certain that as our understanding of quantum mechanics grows will behave for completely rational reasons and not out of pure happenstance, don't you? Why does everything in our universe always behave in such rational ways?

 



Kasz216 on 30 March 2009
JaggedSac said:
LOL. I need to start selling these damn things in the US. There has to be many more fucks dumb enough to buy these things.

 

Al Gore makes a killing in Carbon Credits.  So the market is there.



HappySqurriel on 30 March 2009
SciFiBoy said:

its actually one of many reasons, but none i can give will ever satisfy you, so whats the point in answering a question you will never accept can be answered by anyone.

 

 

If the question can be answered then answer it ...

 



GamingChartzFTW on 30 March 2009
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

that just means youve met some atheists who arent nice, its not fair to assume we are all like that.

 

Well then, explain why you believe that no god exists?

 

 

i see no reason to belive he does, how does it benefit me or aid my understanding of the world to do so?

Thats an odd way to position your belief structure, a rhetorical question that could only possibly answered if you reversed your beliefs ...

Now, most scientists, mathematicians and logicians will tell you that as their understanding of their own little peice of the universe grows that everything tends to work exactly as it should work. If we're living in a universe which is entirely random, unpredictable and uncontrolled why is it so perfect?

 

HappySqurriel do not ignore this post.


The Universe is no more perfect than it is imperfect. Humans are born without limbs! Galaxies collide etc

[inserts hundreds of millions of examples rendering the "everything-is-so-perfect" bs, invalid]



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Kasz216 on 30 March 2009
GamingChartzFTW said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

that just means youve met some atheists who arent nice, its not fair to assume we are all like that.

 

Well then, explain why you believe that no god exists?

 

 

i see no reason to belive he does, how does it benefit me or aid my understanding of the world to do so?

Thats an odd way to position your belief structure, a rhetorical question that could only possibly answered if you reversed your beliefs ...

Now, most scientists, mathematicians and logicians will tell you that as their understanding of their own little peice of the universe grows that everything tends to work exactly as it should work. If we're living in a universe which is entirely random, unpredictable and uncontrolled why is it so perfect?

 

HappySqurriel do not ignore this post.


The Universe is no more perfect than it is imperfect. Humans are born without limbs! Galaxies collide etc

[inserts hundreds of millions of examples rendering the "everything-is-so-perfect" bs]

He means mathematically perfect.  Like how it was possible to predict elements in the perodic table before they were discovered etc.

That everything fits a perfect mathematical pattern.  With the exception of things breaking down on the quantum level of which we know little about.



lolita on 30 March 2009

Good for them. I wish I could do the same actually. For many reasons... The fact that I don't want to be associated with a religion and I hate the fact that I was baptized just cause my parents thought it was a nice and beautiful thing to do *rolleyes*. Well at least I wasn't raised in a religion driven family nor went to a religious school.

I was able to make my own research about many religions, draw my own conclusions and make my own decisions without anyone pushing it on me or "encouraging" it. I prefer to be an atheist, have my own morals and live my life freely.

I'm glad more people free themselves.



GamingChartzFTW on 30 March 2009
Kasz216 said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

that just means youve met some atheists who arent nice, its not fair to assume we are all like that.

 

Well then, explain why you believe that no god exists?

 

 

i see no reason to belive he does, how does it benefit me or aid my understanding of the world to do so?

Thats an odd way to position your belief structure, a rhetorical question that could only possibly answered if you reversed your beliefs ...

Now, most scientists, mathematicians and logicians will tell you that as their understanding of their own little peice of the universe grows that everything tends to work exactly as it should work. If we're living in a universe which is entirely random, unpredictable and uncontrolled why is it so perfect?

 

HappySqurriel do not ignore this post.


The Universe is no more perfect than it is imperfect. Humans are born without limbs! Galaxies collide etc

[inserts hundreds of millions of examples rendering the "everything-is-so-perfect" bs]

He means mathematically perfect.  Like how it was possible to predict elements in the perodic table before they were discovered etc.

 

Ok. I see.

Then again. Why wouldn't everything be "mathematically perfect". Why do religous people build their deities around that?

 



JaggedSac on 30 March 2009
Kasz216 said:
JaggedSac said:
LOL. I need to start selling these damn things in the US. There has to be many more fucks dumb enough to buy these things.

 

Al Gore makes a killing in Carbon Credits.  So the market is there.

LOL.  Facebook would be the perfect platform to do this.

 



HappySqurriel on 30 March 2009
GamingChartzFTW said:

HappySqurriel do not ignore this post.


The Universe is no more perfect than it is imperfect. Humans are born without limbs! Galaxies collide etc

[inserts hundreds of millions of examples rendering the "everything-is-so-perfect" bs, invalid]

At one point in time we believed that the stars and planets moved through the night's sky in very complicated patterns because our understanding of our environment was simple and we didn't know we were on a big ball that was rotating on its own axis while orbiting the sun ... As our understanding grew we saw that planetary motion was far simpler than we ever thought and reacts how it should react.

People are born without arms not out of some unexplainable happenstance, but for entirely rational reasons ...

From what we have seen the universe operates as a perfectly rational system, why is that?