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Soleron on 29 March 2009
cura said:
but I don't like Fallout 3...

Also, the 4800 series graphics card needs 450 watt psu (http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd4800/requirements.html ), and that graphics card is very loud. If you were going to spend $350 just to play fallout 3 why not just buy a cheap 360 and fallout 3 second hand, it would turn out to be much cheaper.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15752/8

Nah. They always inflate that figure by 50% to compensate for off-brand power supplies that don't deliver what they say.

TDP (maximum power use) is only 110W. Combine with 65W E5200 and that's only 40% of the PSU he has. And that's worst-case.

The other components won't eat 50W between them. See; typical system power consumption under load was 208W for Tech Report.

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As for noise,  shows the 4830 isn't noisy enough to register on a sound meter (<40dB) as shown on that TR review.

 



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ssj12 on 29 March 2009

that keyboard is nasty. at least go for a $10 keyboard.



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gebx on 29 March 2009
Soleron said:
gebx said:
...

 

Here's a good example - Call of Duty series

Minimum requirements

Call of Duty 4

  • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 2.4 GHz or AMD(R) Athlon(TM)
  • 64 2800+ processor or any 1.8Ghz Dual Core Processor or better supported
  • RAM: 512MB RAM (768MB for Windows Vista)
  • Harddrive: 8GB of free hard drive space
  • Video card (generic): NVIDIA(R) Geforce(TM) 6600 or better or ATI(R) Radeon(R) 9800Pro or better

    •  

    Call of Duty World at War

    Processor: Pentium 4 @ 3 GHz/AMD 64 3200+
    Memory: 512 MB (1 GB for Vista)
    Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
    Video Memory: 256 MB (nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1600)

     

    And I also expect Modern Warfare 2 to have higher requirements then CoD 4

     

    Those minimum requirements (and even the recommended ones) are still well below the system described. The E5200 is three or four times as fast as that P4, and the 4830 is maybe ten times as fast. You're not really sat=ying that mere software efficiency improvements will make up a 4x gap within the PS3's lifetime?

     

     

    I guess that's where my original question lies - Will you need to update the PC to play games next year (or within the PS3's lifetime)??

    Also I started looking up those links in your OP - the $55 Windows XP is gone, the next cheapest is at $89 and you've left out all the shipping cost of the new egg purchases... and you've incorrectly stated taxes where included in the motherboard when in fact its not (although thats a moot point since taxes are applied to consoles also).

     



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    theprof00 on 29 March 2009

    this dumbass system does not include:
    cords
    installation
    shipping
    tax
    S-video capable video card

    it is however:
    noisier
    ugly
    5 times the size
    underpowered (420w PSU tsk tsk)



    Khuutra on 29 March 2009

    "Installation"?

    ...."Cords"?

    ....S-video capable?



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    theprof00 on 29 March 2009

    yeah, the cost of the time I have to take out of my schedule to put it together. The time I need to take to be at home when the shipment arrives, or even transportation costs of moving them from the fedex or ups to my home.

    The HD cord that would be needed for HD tv owners, HD audio cables.

    S-video, for those of us who don't have an HD



    Soleron on 29 March 2009
    theprof00 said:
    this dumbass system does not include:

    cords

    Um, they'd come with the case?

    installation

    You build it yourself.

    shipping

    Neither does a PS3 ordered over the internet.


    tax

    Neither does the price of a PS3.


    S-video capable video card

    It will support connection to an HDTV, via HDMI or DP. It has TV-out for SD TV.

    it is however:
    noisier

    Nope. No noisier than a PS3 or X360.


    ugly

    And the X360/PS3 isn't?


    5 times the size

    micro-ATX FTW.


    underpowered (420w PSU tsk tsk)

    As I said above, with those specs you could get away with a 300W PSU.

     



    Zucas on 29 March 2009
    Majin-Tenshinhan said:
    Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
    Can i Play Valkryia Chronicles on it? How about some Uncharted? ... thats what i thought.

    Exclusives do matter you know, although you've made your point for Multiplatforms, i find it funny how you mention the PS3 only w/o the 360 being mention'd.

     

    Well, a PS3/360 won't be able to play Starcraft II so I think I'd prefer a PC ;)

    Owned haha. 

    Anyways that's awesome.  Who says you can't build an awesome PC for low prices eh.

     



    theprof00 on 29 March 2009

    cords Um, they'd come with the case?

    Umm no they dont. They only come with the necessities. Power cable, internal cables. No HD cable, HD audio.

    No installation You build it yourself.

    Yes and there is a cost for that, my time and energy are important to me

    shipping Neither does a PS3 ordered over the internet.

    Why, when I can just go to the store?

    tax Neither does the price of a PS3. true, but for a very small minority can save tax by crossing state line.

    S-video capable video card It will support connection to an HDTV, via HDMI or DP.It has TV-out for SD TV.

    No it does not have Tv-out, because I checked, liar.

    it is however: noisier Nope.

    No noisier than a PS3 or X360.

    not quieter than ps3, that video card is notorious for its fan

    ugly

    And the X360/PS3 isn't?

    Not like that ugly case, keyboard, and mouse

    5 times the size micro-ATX FTW.

    None of those parts are micro atx FTL, what the hell is your deal. WHy are you lying to me

    underpowered (420w PSU tsk tsk) As I said above, with those specs you could get away with a 300W PSU. Yeah, OP said he wanted to OC, good luck with that. A 300 watt power supply would crackle when you put the video card in there.

    On top of that, there are no fans in the case, and I can't tell if there is a heat sink for the processor since hte link leads t a forum. I'm guessing that it does not.



    theprof00 on 29 March 2009

    I'm sorry for the color combinations above, but I wanted it to hurt, because you blatantly lied to me.