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Reasonable said:
Sardauk said:
1337 Gamer said:
In most educated gamers eyes it does hold up to its value. However at its current price point the mass market do not see its value. A price cut will help things tremendously

 

Yes, but even for an "educated gamers", I believe the argument about value is BS. There are no such things as value in FCMG... only in luxury goods...

Anyhow, this "value" debat is a diversion to gain some time before the price cut...

 

Define where you see low value FMCG splitting from 'Luxury'?

So far as I'm aware most consumer electronics supports you across the spectrum - i.e I can get the top of the range HD TV or a cheaper model, same for DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.

It's pretty obvious game console can have different 'value' too. That's the whole point and why IMHO the argument isn't BS.

Everything has a value unless it is seen as a pure commodity with nothing to chose between except price (heck even printer paper can be high end or cheap).

Of course the 360 and PS3 can be considered on value - the question the original articule correctly asks is which is most important to the majority of purchasers right now, and how much the current economy will drive that.

Clearly if you want the same multi-plat games, WiFi, Blu-Ray, etc. etc. then the PS3 could easily seen to offer better value for cost. On the other hand if you want the same games and don't give a hoot about WiFi, Blu-Ray, etc. etc as per Sony's argument then the PS3's value is going to plummet, which the value of the 360 is going to rise with price being the easier decider between the two.

For the record while I know they're hurting I do think that, particularly in the US, the PS3 does not have the right price point for a large percentage of potential purchasers, and its different specification points (WiFi, Blu-Ray, etc) are not percieved as having enough value. Hence the 360 vs PS3 sales and position (although the 1 year lead also has something to do with it).

 

 

 

No IMO ps360 are pure commodities sold at mass retailers ("cheap", no services, no specialized/certified retailers, mass market audience).

About fixing the limit : Lets take home cinema for example. You can have a good sony system for something like 800 € ; while a luxury installation would cost something like 6.000 € (one Marantz amplifier with a Bowers & Wilkins XT set). That is 85% difference... Other luxury brands are more expensive (like a 25k B&O set).

 

Speaking about "value for cost". I understand your point and what Sony marketing is trying to push.

But IMO, it works the other way ! It is about getting more for less, not getting more for more.

 



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

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@richardhutnik said "A person gets XBox Live Silver and can download a LOT more demos and content then on the PS3. It is cheaper."


Huh? people can also download tons of stuff from the PS Store, and how can anyone download more on a X360 with no HDD (Arcade) or a 60GB HDD than a PS3 with 80GB HDD?? And what's exactly cheaper? Stuff on the store? let's talk about hard drive upgrades and let's see what's cheaper.

The reality is this.  The 360 has more content, particularly in the area of demos.  About EVERY game has a demo on Live, including community games.  You get to try and then buy.  Besides this, there is also Netflix. 

And let's talk about harddrive upgrades.  The 60 or 120 GB drives now come with the system.  It is still cheaper.  It is also easier than what you do with the PS3, which treats a harddrive upgrade like a PC has.  It is something that needs to be formatted.

So, as I said before, when it comes to cost, the ONLY advantage the PS3 has over the 360 is when people want to play online.  If you don't, it is still free, and the same as what you get wht the PS3.  Well, when Free Realms shows up, then maybe there is something.

- Rich