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akuma587 on 19 March 2009
Galaki said:
akuma587 said:

2) The government and insurance companies usually end up footing a huge bill at the hospital because some dumbass thought he looked cool not wearing a helmet. People's stupidity should not cost me money.

 

So, it's okay for the government to spend your tax dollars mindlessly and it's okay for the insurance to take your money monthly. But it's not okay when they have to foot the bills due to accident? Okay...

 

Stupid people needed to get hurt to learn. People learn things differently.

If you happen to die before you learned to protect yourself. Then... to bad...

 

Take the octopussy mom case for example. She's got what? 14 kids now? And who's footing the bills for her stupidity?

Neither the doc that inseminated for her nor her are responsible. Should we ban insemination now, too, because some ass abused it?

 

Politicians should be penalized for spouting stupidity, too. But no, never.

 

Sooner or later, you'll have to be inside a bubble to ride a bike.

I'm all for punishing doctors who do what that doctor did.  It is completely unethetical and he should lose his medical license.

I wouldn't stop it if the government imposed a law that said people couldn't have more than 10 children.  I don't think that is unreasonable.

But taking it out on the kids is a bad decision for the same reason I mentioned above.  A person under 18 or a baby especially is treated completely differently in the eyes of the law as a presumably rational adult.

I don't care if people are stupid.  They can do whatever the hell they want.  I do care when there stupidity endangers me or costs me money though.  You know how much more expensive our healthcare system would be if there weren't seatbelt laws?  You know how many more fatalities we would have per year? 

Maybe we shouldn't have any kind of rules as to who can fly a plane.  Maybe we shouldn't have any kind of rules as to who can be a police officer, including ex-convicts.  Maybe we shouldn't have any rules as to who can work with children, including convicted sex offenders.  Maybe we shouldn't have any rules as to whether or not people can bring guns into a public school or other government building.  Maybe we shouldn't have any rules about people taking hardcore narcotics that cause them to commit violent crimes because they are so incredibly addictive. 

I mean the government shouldn't regulate people for being stupid enough to get on a plane without checking out the pilot's history, or trust the police, or send their kids to school, or think they might be safe in a government building, or feel safe in their homes.  Its ludicrous to expect the government to pass laws like that when they are just protecting stupid people!

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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TheRealMafoo on 19 March 2009
akuma587 said:
I am for and against helmet laws at the same time.

1) If you are dumb enough not to wear a helmet and die because of it, good riddance. You probably weren't the sharpest tool in the shed.

But

2) The government and insurance companies usually end up footing a huge bill at the hospital because some dumbass thought he looked cool not wearing a helmet. People's stupidity should not cost me money.

So if they passed a law that said if you aren't wearing a helmet you won't receive medical treatment, I would probably be OK with that. An obvious exception would be if you were under 18. I mean if you were a responsible adult and knew what you were in for, I don't see why society should have to pay for it.

 

The statement did not give details on the cause of death for Richardson, who suffered a head injury when she fell on a beginner's trail during a private ski lesson at the luxury Mont Tremblant ski resort in Quebec. She was hospitalized Tuesday in Montreal and later flown to a hospital in New York.

I am not for helmet laws, but people who die doing things risky are not stupid.

If 1 out of a million die skiing because they don’t have a helmet, accepting that risk to live life does not make you an idiot. I cannot think of a single enjoyable activity that does not come with risk. Risk means someone, somewhere will have something bad happen to them. It does not make that percentage less smart then the rest of us.

It’s like saying the guy who was harpooned by a fish deep sea fishing was a moron because he didn’t wear body armor.



TheRealMafoo on 19 March 2009
akuma587 said:

I wouldn't stop it if the government imposed a law that said people couldn't have more than 10 children.  I don't think that is unreasonable.

 

God you’re such a socialist. This quote is going in my sig.



TheRealMafoo on 19 March 2009
akuma587 said:

I don't care if people are stupid.  They can do whatever the hell they want.  I do care when there stupidity endangers me or costs me money though. 

 

 

I predict as soon as you get a job, you're going to go from Liberal to Conservative real quick. I cannot think of human in the history of the world, that is going to cost people more money than Obama.

For stupid reasons as well. So he qualifies.



Thatmax on 19 March 2009

I'm torn between sides here, on the one hand 39 deaths in 18 years is quite a lot, yet part of me believe that it should be the choice of the skier.

Maybe they should run a safety school at the resort and if you pass the course then you are allowed to choose whether you wear a helmet or not???



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akuma587 on 19 March 2009

I'm not saying that helmet laws should be imposed on skiiers, though it wouldn't be a bad idea.

But getting rid of motorcycle helmet laws is about the dumbest decision some states have made.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 on 19 March 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:

I wouldn't stop it if the government imposed a law that said people couldn't have more than 10 children.  I don't think that is unreasonable.

 

God you’re such a socialist. This quote is going in my sig.

Oh come on.  At least if you are going to quote me get my SN right.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson