I'll just wait until it's out on DVD.

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I'll just wait until it's out on DVD.

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Honestly the sex scene was too long though. They were thrusting for a good three minutes. And they cut out Nite Owl giving out coffee and blaring old rock and roll. :(
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Just came back from seeing it.
I'm gonna put a spoiler alert right here. Not gonna pay attention to make sure it's spoiler free, so I might as well.
Vagabond pretty much replicates my feelings.
Everything I have to say about the movie comes from a perspective of someone who has read the novel, so the fact that it was sometimes faithful to the point of reproducing frame for frame was a good thing. I have no idea how someone not familiar with the novel will take the narrative. Even died down as it was, it's a pretty complex story and there are a shit load of themes floating arround.
Absolutely loved the fact that they decided to keep most of the dialog. It was well written and some parts were simply too brilliant to be changed.
Manhattan was the best casting choice of the whole movie, followed by Rorschach and Dan (Nite Owl). Nixon gets a special mention, cause of absolutely hillarious nose.
Loved the new ending, even more than the original. Made a lot more sense.
A few nitpics follow:
The Blake killing JFK thing was absolute bullshit and completely unnecessary;
The thing when Dan was all moved by Rorschach's death although it made sense in the movie, I felt the Dan from the novel wouldn't care so much. It kind of felt like they were all so crazy, they were trying to make Dan "the straight guy", which I felt was untrue to his character;
Rorschach was too emotional. In the novel he was creepy as hell, showing hardly any emotions through the whole course of the novel. As the movie was condensed to only show key aspects of his personality, he was portrayed as a very angry guy. The fact that he hardly (graphically) kicked any ass during the movie didn't help either. If you're gonna have that much violence in the movie, save most of it for Rorscach to help the viewer understand just how fucked up he is.
Hollis Mason suddenly shriveled or something?
Can't think of anything, edit post later.
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I didn't think they made Rorschach too emotional. The only part where he shows any actual emotion is at the very end, and it was the same way in the graphic novel. Even the facial expression was almost exactly dead on when he was screaming "JUST DO IT". The rest of the time he was pretty cold. The only other time he almost showed any emotion is when Dan was pissed off with him in the basement for being such a dick. And then he just sort of awkwardly half apologized, which he did in the novel as well.
Oh yeah, and the panic before the FBI storms the building, but that too was in the novel. I remember that part really made me feel bad for him in the book. As crazy ass violent retributionist sadist that he is, when he realized that there were an assload of armed guys outside waiting for him, he just freaked out and panicked, made him seem really human and realistic.
I think the movie portrayed him just about dead on.
The only thing that I think they skirted around a bit was the atheism. Osterman definitely came off more atheistic than agnostic in the novel, but a bit more agnostic in the movie. And Rorshach's speech with the therapist got a good bit cut out, and while it got the point across it stopped short of him denying the existence of god, and sadly never got around to his great line about how there is no meaning in life except that which you see if you stare at it for too long (which explains his name and mask). That part of the speech definitely needed to stay in. But oddly enough to movie didn't push nihilism as hard as the novel. Nor did it show the atheism of some of the key characters.

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So,im wondering. If the ending was modified(i.e no island monster) then does the essence of Ozymandius' role stay the same?
"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murders will foam up about their waist and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...
....and I'll look down and whisper "no."
- Rorschach
@Vagabond:
I get what you're saying. I know those moments were extremely emotional, but that's the thing, there were few of those moments, compared to the whole novel.
Remember the profile that was written on him when he was an adolescent? They said he was really quiet. Laurie descrbes his voice as creepy and monotone. Did you notice when he killed that guy how you could hear his breathing through the mask? And the way he reacted in the end when he wanted to expose Adrian, was not at all like him. I remember he just said 3 words: "Joking of course". And that's my view on Rorschach: Few words. Not verbose and talkative, like the movie. Except for the part on Adrian's office he was pretty much all direct phrases, straight to the point, through the entire novel.
The actor playing him did an excellent job as you said it, it wasn't so much his fault as it was the fact that they showed just the key aspects of him in the movie. Not the quietness. Not the creepyness. Not the breaking fingers of innocent men to get information he's not even sure they have.
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| BringBackChrono said: So,im wondering. If the ending was modified(i.e no island monster) then does the essence of Ozymandius' role stay the same? |
Absolutely. The new ending actually makes more sense.
I just wish the actor playing him knew what he was doing.
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| BringBackChrono said: So,im wondering. If the ending was modified(i.e no island monster) then does the essence of Ozymandius' role stay the same? |
Yes, it actually stays completely the same. It's just a slight alteration of how the plan goes down. It works great, and while I'm reluctant to say it works better than the original ending, it does seem more sensical, less far fetched. It works well, either way.

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| Johann said: @Vagabond: I get what you're saying. I know those moments were extremely emotional, but that's the thing, there were few of those moments, compared to the whole novel. Remember the profile that was written on him when he was an adolescent? They said he was really quiet. Laurie descrbes his voice as creepy and monotone. Did you notice when he killed that guy how you could hear his breathing through the mask? And the way he reacted in the end when he wanted to expose Adrian, was not at all like him. I remember he just said 3 words: "Joking of course". And that's my view on Rorschach: Few words. Not verbose and talkative, like the movie. Except for the part on Adrian's office he was pretty much all direct phrases, straight to the point, through the entire novel. The actor playing him did an excellent job as you said it, it wasn't so much his fault as it was the fact that they showed just the key aspects of him in the movie. Not the quietness. Not the creepyness. Not the breaking fingers of innocent men to get information he's not even sure they have. |
Yeah, I getcha. By focusing on him so much for the movie he comes off alot more talkative that he was in the book. And they really did cut some of his key defining dialogues and moments.

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I watched this movie yesterday.
I can only give the opinion of a movie goer, as I have not read the comic books.
I must say, this movie is basically a thank you to those comic book readers, because if you haven't read it (like me), you won't understand a thing for the first hour.
The movie's main fault is definitely that it assumes that you know whats going on and that this movie is just a chance for you to see it in motion. I think IGN's review put it best when it said that(paraphrase here), in trying to recreate the comic book exactly, the makers forgot the fact that the readers had 1 month to digest the information and go over it again before the next issue, in this 150 minute movie it doesn't give you that luxury. It's artistic style is pretty awesome, and the characters are odd in that they are either awesome or fall flat.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS FROM HERE ONWARDS:
The best character in the whole film is Rorschach, easily. He's the only character you feel empathy with in the entire movie. Comedians a cold bastard, Nite Owl seems like a selfish douchebag (stealing a fellow team mates girl and all), Silk Spectre a bit of a sl*t, Dr. Manhatten is probably the next person closest to achieving empathy with (which, if you've seen the movie/read the comic, is laughable given his character) and Adrian just seems like the actor didn't know the character (and this is coming from someone who hasn't read the comic and doesn't know the character either!).
HUGE SPOILERS HERE:
Similarly to the IGN review, I find the ending a bit ridiculous. Dr. M is an American Weapon, I don't really get how the world is able to unite when America's weapon caused the devastation (or at least they think so anyway). I would have thought the deaths in New York would have been more viewed as America getting a taste of their own medicine (or at least realistically thats what the other nations should have thought I felt).
Apparently the original ending is that it's blamed on Aliens? I thought that would have been a far better ending, as it would have made more sense then blaming it on Dr. Manhattan (in the sense of the reaction of the nations).
Also, What the HELL was up with that weird tiger thing? Similarly to the weird monsters in 300, it really put me off the movie, it really broke the realistic feel of the movie (aside from Dr. Manhattan of course).
In the end, it was a good movie that doesn't fair to well because it seems as though the makers were so hell bent on making this faithful, that they forgot the difference between comic books and movies. I enjoyed it, but it's not one of the best comic book movies of all time