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i dont think that it spread the rule of the communists.if we had not invested the money then it would have taken along time til they were rebuilt.then the communists would have a easier time getting into power(in my opinion im not a expert,im just learning about the marshall plan at my college)



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@arius dion i paid for company insurance, and one day while unloading truck, i got hit in the side by a thirty pound box of french fries flying down a belt off that truck, so i had to have a few routine tests done and the insurance wouldn't cover them . i was also made to work in a perpettually wet basement that the sewage must have been running into since the sump pumps frequently didn't work properly, and stand down at the bottom of a twenty foot long slidwhile the truck driver sent five gallon bag in the boxes of soda down it while I tried to pad myself with an old coat. I also had to remember whether or not we had received upwards of 500 different items and do it all quickly. Someone told me that there is suppossed to be a manager there to check it all off and make sure it's all there, but the managers never do that. It is a bunch of grinding work both physically and psychologically. Not even going into my suspicion that there might have been asbestos in the walls.



Heavens to Murgatoids.

BTFeather55 said:
 But what they are really afraid of is that the poor people in this country will suddenly have as much as they do. They offer no thought to how the poor can improve themselves. At most, they just say work harder, but you see, that doesn't work in the real world. 

 

I used to be very poor. I am now very well off. I got here, because I worked harder then the next guy.

Rich people would love it if poor people made more money. It's only the poor that see wealth as a fixed amount of money, and the only way to become rich is to somehow take it from someone who already is rich. That's farthest from the truth.

If 10 million people in this country when from povery to millionaires, the wealthy would be wealthier, not the other way around. The Wealthy know this.

Trust me, it's not a "them vs you". It's a "government vs you".



I'm not even going to touch this.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

I think there is more likely a chance of a Civil war in france then the US.

In otherwords... very little chance.



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TheRealMafoo said:
BTFeather55 said:
 But what they are really afraid of is that the poor people in this country will suddenly have as much as they do. They offer no thought to how the poor can improve themselves. At most, they just say work harder, but you see, that doesn't work in the real world. 

 

I used to be very poor. I am now very well off. I got here, because I worked harder then the next guy.

Rich people would love it if poor people made more money. It's only the poor that see wealth as a fixed amount of money, and the only way to become rich is to somehow take it from someone who already is rich. That's farthest from the truth.

If 10 million people in this country when from povery to millionaires, the wealthy would be wealthier, not the other way around. The Wealthy know this.

Trust me, it's not a "them vs you". It's a "government vs you".

There is some truth to claiming that working harder doesn't (necessarily) make you better off in the long run, and the reason for this is that some people work really hard towards achieving something which has a very low chance of providing much of a reward. An example of this can be seen at most Colleges/Universities in the degree paths that most students choose ...

As an employee your earning potential is determined by the combination of how many people are qualified to do your job, how many similar positions are available, and how many people would want to do that job. What this means is that degree feilds that produce a similar number of graduates to the number of industry and academic positions available (like engineering and computer science) have moderate wages and steady employment, those that produce less graduates than the number of industry and academic positions available (medicine) have high wages and constant employment, and those that produce a lot more graduates than the number of industry and academic positions available (humanities, social sciences and fine arts) have low wages and high unemployment/underemployment. It doesn't matter how hard you worked if you decided to get a degree where there was only 1 industry/academic position available for your 100 person graduating class and you're the second best student ...

 

 



HappySqurriel said:
BTFeather55 said:
@happysquirrel, I was making $8.00 an hour at my old job, and having to drive 60 miles 5 days a week to work with gas prices as they were under Bush was really putting me in a tight spot.

High energy prices put a lot of people in a tight spot, but there isn't anything that the federal government in general (or the president in particular) could do to lower energy prices in the short term ... Even then there were a lot of people who were highly critical about George Bush's energy policy and were wondering why there wasn't more nuclear powerplants, coal to liquid fuel facilities, and domestic oil/natural gas exploration & drilling; on top of that people were (and still are) highly critical of the corn-ethanol subsidy that was introduced durring his term, because it would have a negative impact on the price of food and not produce enough fuel to make a difference.

If your wondering why we haven't furthered our drilling & exploitation of American sources of energy:

Few good resources. Bush tried to get oil shale and ANWR available for exploitation, but it was prevented by the Democrats in the case of ANWR, and since Bush has been out of office, it seems Obama's govt. doesn't really have interest in it. Shame, because there are 800 billion barrels of oil available in the rockies via oil shale - enough to power us for years.

 



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

HappySqurriel said:
TheRealMafoo said:
BTFeather55 said:
 But what they are really afraid of is that the poor people in this country will suddenly have as much as they do. They offer no thought to how the poor can improve themselves. At most, they just say work harder, but you see, that doesn't work in the real world. 

 

I used to be very poor. I am now very well off. I got here, because I worked harder then the next guy.

Rich people would love it if poor people made more money. It's only the poor that see wealth as a fixed amount of money, and the only way to become rich is to somehow take it from someone who already is rich. That's farthest from the truth.

If 10 million people in this country when from povery to millionaires, the wealthy would be wealthier, not the other way around. The Wealthy know this.

Trust me, it's not a "them vs you". It's a "government vs you".

There is some truth to claiming that working harder doesn't (necessarily) make you better off in the long run, and the reason for this is that some people work really hard towards achieving something which has a very low chance of providing much of a reward. An example of this can be seen at most Colleges/Universities in the degree paths that most students choose ...

As an employee your earning potential is determined by the combination of how many people are qualified to do your job, how many similar positions are available, and how many people would want to do that job. What this means is that degree feilds that produce a similar number of graduates to the number of industry and academic positions available (like engineering and computer science) have moderate wages and steady employment, those that produce less graduates than the number of industry and academic positions available (medicine) have high wages and constant employment, and those that produce a lot more graduates than the number of industry and academic positions available (humanities, social sciences and fine arts) have low wages and high unemployment/underemployment. It doesn't matter how hard you worked if you decided to get a degree where there was only 1 industry/academic position available for your 100 person graduating class and you're the second best student ...

 

 

 

I think if your getting a degree, your working in the right direction. The people who work harder and don't get anywhere, are the factory workers that pick up another shift, or the cleaning lady that gets a job at a fast food place in the evenings.

Working harder means working full time and spending 20 hours a week doing something to move you into a better paying job. Not just doing your job harder.