Awesome Video. Everyone who cares about human rights, should watch this.
That video grossly oversimplifies the fact that there is a huge grey area between those two ideologies.
And what was up with the video acting like government's are authoritarian states simply when they pass laws? Last time I read the Constitution we expressly GAVE the government the power to pass legislation BROADLY within its enumerated subject matter jurisdiction.
One of the reasons why we gave the federal government more power was because the previous government under the Articles of Confederation was such a miserable failure. It didn't have ENOUGH power.
That video misrepresented too many things for my taste.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: That video grossly oversimplifies the fact that there is a huge grey area between those two ideologies. And what was up with the video acting like government's are authoritarian states simply when they pass laws? Last time I read the Constitution we expressly GAVE the government the power to pass legislation BROADLY within its enumerated subject matter jurisdiction. One of the reasons why we gave the federal government more power was because the previous government under the Articles of Confederation was such a miserable failure. It didn't have ENOUGH power. That video misrepresented too many things for my taste. |
It's not an oversimplification. The concepts are simple. people who wish to distort and remove your rights add complexity in order to do so.
You don't believe in personal rights, so of course your not going to like the video. That doesn't make it wrong.
| akuma587 said: And what was up with the video acting like government's are authoritarian states simply when they pass laws? L |
And I think you missed the point here. The point was in a free society, the government can not pass laws that grant them power you don't have. So for example, if your a bad parent, the government can take your children, but as a citizen, I don't have the authority to remove your children if I feel they are being treated inhumanly. That would be an example of the kind of law he is talking about.
Laws are good when they protect your liberties. Bad when they don't (if you believe in human rights anyway).
So...I should be allowed to have my own arsenal of nuclear weapons and if I can't the government can't have them either?
Even your example is ridiculous. The government shouldn't be allowed to take a child away from a parent when that parent is raping and abusing their child on a daily basis simply because my neighbors can't take that child away?
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Good video.
oversimplified, maybe but it makes it's point.
but I feel I'm losing my rights.
Well... I am a moderate republican I guess, but if that video is accurate, I highly favor collectivism. The other choice was tried through the Articles of Confederation, and failed miserably because the people didn't give the government enough rights to function. Surprise surprise! People chose not to be taxed.
I think we (USA) have been a pretty balanced nation so far. I think that in the future we may tip towards the government having too much power, but right now our system is working well. We should probably nationalize/reform health care though.
This is my primary complaint about the video:
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: This is my primary complaint about the video:
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You can't compare fear and love. Why didn't you compare alive and not alive? Those are two opposites that everything fits into. The problem you are having is for some things, you want to take peoples rights away for the collective good, but you don't want to be the kind of person that takes peoples rights away.
You have a dilemma with yourself, not the principals.
As for your post above this one, yes. Anyone who can afford a nuclear arsenal in this country should be allowed to own one. Not sure why you think Bill Gates is less trustworthy then Congress. In reality, we all already own nuclear weapons, as government property belongs to all Americans.
And the raping babies thing, every individual should have the right to retrain the parent, take him or her to the authorities, and or remove the child and take them to social services.
The solution is not to keep government from doing things, but to keep government from stooping you from doing things. (back to human rights).
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