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radha on 21 February 2009
Khuutra said:
MASSIVE AND HORRIBLE SPOILERS

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All right then.

Metal Gear Solid 3 adds the context for the entire series, up to and including the games that take place before the first Metal Gear Solid. It explains the origins of Big Boss and the Patriots, and how The Boss' legacy and the men who fought for her are the source of pretty much all conflict in the entire universe.

Liquid Snake is Solid Snake's brother, which is why he calls Solid "brother" for all three games in which the two characters appear. Well, that's not true: Liquid only appears in the original Metal Gear Solid.

Liquid's hand never took over Ocelot's body. Ocelot basically mentally conditioned himself into being Liquid Snake so that he could.... wait, why the Hell did he do that? I forget exactly. I'd need to watch the MGS4 ending again. I'm sure he had a reason, though. It probably involved screwing with Snake.

Naomi Hunter is the sister of Frank Jaeger and the inventor of FOXDIE. That's her biggest thing. Her nanomachine studies are the driving force behind the technology of the entire series after the first game. She's responsible for the Genome soldiers, for FOXDIE, for the System, for all kinds of horrible shit. Also she has cancer and apparently the nanomachines stopped it only seconds before it would have rendered her unable to walk.

Raiden is some child soldier who fought in MGS2, rescued Olga's daughter Sunny, apparently got more or less annihilated, captured by the Patriots, and turned into a robot like Grey Fox. He's a bit of a huge dork.

Snake was not in all of that pain because of FOXDIE. The FOXDIE that he was originally given was not intended to target him: his gene sequence was different from Liquid's, and it would not reach a point where FOXDIE would actively target him. Naomi intended for FOXDIE to eventually kill him, but his Werner's syndrome screwed up his genetic sequence and caused the FOXDIE to mutate, which basically turned him into a walking biological weapon.

Snake tried to kill himself because he was turning into a FOXDIE bomb of sorts, the single vector for what couldd potentially kill every single human being on the planet.

Snake was in all of that pain from a combination of Werner's syndrome and the nanomachines in his body going haywire, which is something that was happening to every single person in thee game who had nanomachines. Snake's didn't shut down entirely because they're an older model, but they were still sending him into seizures and that is why he had to take those shots.

His rapid aging was from Werner's syndrome. Otacon says that he has no real idea why Snake has it - it's much worse than a clone's rapid aging should be.

Snake wasn't actually against the Patriots, he was against Liquid. Fighting Liquid was all he cared about. He was a pawn of the Patriots, from beginnign to end, without realizing it. Naomi was against the Patriots, and Big Boss was against the Patriots, and Ocelot was against the Patriots, and through Solid Snake they were able to destroy the Patriots without him even realizing it.

Does that answer everything?

 

good to see the MGS experts finally showing up there was too much missinfomration in this thread, this post here is accurate, did you too read the entire enciclopedia? 



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soulsamurai on 21 February 2009

The best way to explain the motives of Ocelot is to explain his whole history and a little bit of the patriots. You might not know some connections so I'll parenthesis some things to help out

In Operation Snake Eater, Ocelot was a triple agent. He was originally posted by the Philosophers to work as a double agent under Colonel Volgins command in order to retrieve the Philosophers Legacy. He was then ordered under the CIA to help Naked Snake (Big Boss) under the code name ADAM. However a chinese spy pretending to be EVA (which is now known through the whole series as EVA and is known in MGS4 as Big Mama) showed up before Ocelot did, so Ocelot decides to help Snake out subtly without giving up his disguise. (Notice how many times he lets you get away and during the fight with volgin instead of shooting you he gives you ammo) Shortly after Snake eater, Ocelot recovers both halves of the Philosophers Legacy (one was in the american branch, the other KGB)

Around the 1970s using the Philosphers Legacy Ocelot, Eva (Big Mama), Donald Anderson (Sigint, The Darpa Chief), Zero, Clark (Para-Medic), and Big Boss form the Patriots. Well everyone in the Patriots views kind of shifted, and Big Boss breaks from the Patriots which leads to the Metal Gear games.

Also around this time Ocelot, leaves the patriots however unannounced that way he still has connections in and he can plan their fall from the inside. Also a little bit later Zero makes the "Patriots systems" which is kind of like....a self thinking computerized government. Ocelot goal is bent on destroying the program.

When Ocelot learned that a unit called Foxhound was coming in order under the lead of liquid snake he was more then happy to join and take part of to be close to one of Big Boss's sons. He joined in on the Shadow Moses incident. He also was working for Solidus Snake (George Sears, president at the time) Solidus main goal is to unveal the members of the patriots by setting off a hydrogen bomb in the middle of the new york to cause a break in the Patriot system defenses so he can reveal worldwide who the patriots where and hunt them down one by one. Ocelot still technically being one of them couldn't allow that to happen. So in MGS2 he stops Solidus however, a Virus was still upload into Arsenal Gear causing one of the patriot systems to break.

In MGS4 ocelot still hides under the guise of Liquid Ocelot, during the whole thing he manipulates everyone pretending to be part of the patriots. Naomi/Sunny create a virus that gets implanted and spreads to the remaining Patriot system. Drebin (who was recruited by the patriot system) injected the new version of Foxdie into snake to kill enemies of the patriots (which would be Ocelot) so at the end of the game, after all the fighting before he dies, Ocelot reveals they were pretty much on the same side and wanted one last fight with the closest thing he could get to Big Boss.

Pretty much, it is confusing yes, and I left a lot out, but it makes sense in a strange way. By the way i didn't edit this yet so if theirs some spelling or grammer thats like wtf, ill fix.

 

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Khuutra on 21 February 2009
radha said:

 

good to see the MGS experts finally showing up there was too much missinfomration in this thread, this post here is accurate, did you too read the entire enciclopedia? 

Nah, that was all from memory. Thank you for the compliment, though.