MGS4, like FF13 burned through some of the highest budgets ever seen in Japan (besides the Shemmue anomaly, ofc...). They are the exceptions.

Mocap is expensive and while not prohibitely so, budgets are very strained this gen. ps3/x360 development costs are through the roof.

LO also had motion capture, the cutscenes weren´t that impressive though. I´m relieved though that this is only the case with in-game cutscenes for Visual Works´ sake.

WTF?!  LO's cutscenes were very impressive for a JRPG that wasn't from Square-Enix.

@Bitman frops
I never go to metacritic, and perhaps some of the avarage ratings have changed with time, but either way it doesn't really matter if a game has an avarage of 81% or 82%.

I don't trust western reviewers, but even specialized sites on J-RPG's dind't give those xbox 360 and PS3 RPG's high scores, and expect for Tales of Vesperia and Valkyria Chronicles the reaction from J-rpg fans has been pretty mixed for the other J-rpg's so far.

Anyway, why don't you put the line at 80%? Only one Xbox 360 J-rpg has reached an higher avarage than that, and probably the only one that really deseves it, while there are more than 20 J-rpg's for the PS2 that have an higher avarage than that.

Estás siendo muy selectivo a breve.

That would be flawed though. Is 80% that much diferent from 79%? Is 80% that much different from 78%?

I consider 80%+ impressive for any game in any genre.

good, not impressive. CGI was impressive.

Yes it matters when a ps2 rpg with a 81 metacritic is "fucking awesome, western reviewers suck" and a 360 rpg with a 80 metacritic is "a piece of croc, those most revered reviewers just saved me 60$".

Specialized sites on j-rpgs have a way higher chance of being platform-biased since many are smallest sites run by fans that have associated jrpg with the playstation logo for the past decade. They aren't that trustable neither. And famitsu scores are a joke, so it's a tough issue - but I'm digressing now.

The fact there are 20 ps2 jrpgs on the 80-90 range as you point out, does nothing inregards to my original argument that western reviewers shun jrpgs. It only says that the ps2 had a lot of good jrpgs, which is something we already know. You'll have to come up with something else, m8. In fact, it confirms my own opinions: if games that are truely deserving of a 90+ metascore get low 80's, it means games like LO or BD would be 85-90 if reviewed with the same standard western reviewers use for western games.

As cactus said, setting the bar at 80 has it's own problems as well.

Paja en el ojo ajeno, viga en el propio, compañero.

Well then.

I'm surprised that those small sites that are so biased according to you have rated the good RPG's for the GameCube like Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia with good scores, are currently rating some the RPG gems for the DS with nice scores, and even SNES RPG's have great reviews scores in those sites, but hey, they dind't give modern RPG classics like The Last Remnant, Blue Dragon Lost Odyssey and Infinite Undiscovery that 9 that they obviously did deserve.

Failing to address the rest of the post =/

Cherrypicking only what you can reasonably have an answer for won't cut it.

We're talking about mainstream reviewers, averaged review scores and how differently people react to average scores for ps2 and ps3 jrpgs compared to their reaction towards average scores for x360 jrpgs.